Travel Tuesday Happy Hour Podcast - Exploring the World Through the Eyes of Passionate Travelers

How to immerse yourself into the culture when traveling

Episode Summary

Shad and Lena take us on an adventure. We discussed traveling last minute, with children, and how to immerse yourself into the culture when you visit a different country. Join us as we relive some amazing moments with them.

Episode Notes

Shad and Lena take us on an adventure. We discussed traveling last minute, with children, and how to immerse yourself into the culture when you visit a different country. Join us as we relive some amazing moments with them.

 

 

 

Travel Tuesday Happy Hour

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Atomics Travels

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Jacqueline Jackson

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Episode Transcription

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A welcome to the travel to the happy hour

 

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where we interview

 

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dope people doing dope things

 

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from around the world.

 

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And season three, we have couple's goals.

 

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As you can see,

 

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I have an amazing guest today.

 

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Actually, my best not guess co-host.

 

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My man, my, my, my, my lady, my lady,

 

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my lady. Tell us who you are.

 

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I am Jacqueline

 

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Jackson, better known as Jackie,

 

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soon to be Benjamin.

 

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You know, you know,

 

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we try to make moves out here

 

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to be Benjamin,

 

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and we have an amazing

 

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guest today as well.

 

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My amazing couple today.

 

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Please tell us who you are

 

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and where you guys from.

 

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You first,

 

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Shanghai girls, Queens, New York.

 

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Okay. Okay.

 

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Lena Dowdell, Aliquippa, Pennsylvania.

 

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So hold on. Our last

 

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clip.

 

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Yeah. Queens, me, Aliquippa.

 

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This is Brooklyn. Queens.

 

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Which is all about Queens and Aliquippa.

 

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How did it happen?

 

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Um, you got you got

 

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what, 2060 something like that.

 

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I've lived in New York for

 

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what, like ten or 12 years now.

 

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We met, like many of folks our age online

 

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started dating.

 

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He was living in New Jersey,

 

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and we're here a lot.

 

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And so from Aliquippa,

 

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but Harlem resident.

 

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Okay.

 

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Okay.

 

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So, so what do you guys do?

 

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I am a principal

 

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of a lovely middle school in East Harlem.

 

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Oh, pretty.

 

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Some big time.

 

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Yeah, big time is on the show.

 

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All right.

 

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And, sir,

 

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I'm a general manager

 

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of a QVC distribution center.

 

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Oh, okay. Okay.

 

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Big timers. Big timers.

 

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Jackie Lee. What

 

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did you do so.

 

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Oh, yeah.

 

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What do you do, Jackie?

 

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I was a support,

 

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right

 

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I am the chief operations officer

 

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for the New York

 

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Urban League,

 

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and I also am the executive director

 

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of a program called

 

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the Not the Variety Project, which

 

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promotes positive self

 

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images and self-esteem

 

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among youth of color, ages

 

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ten to 14, middle school pronounced way

 

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and their right that's my age group

 

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that has this make this work.

 

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We need to make this work. Yeah.

 

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Y'all met what year again?

 

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Please remind me again

 

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like 2016, I think.

 

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2016.

 

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I'll come on older than that.

 

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But a number you feel young at heart

 

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you to do

 

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well you know when it comes to dates

 

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and times, I'm kind of like,

 

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oh yeah that memory gets like

 

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well it's it again

 

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so now since the memory

 

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and all that great and young seeds

 

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and I remember when I first met

 

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so when was the first trip

 

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y'all took together. Mhm.

 

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Oh so

 

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and on top of that

 

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who was responsible for planning it

 

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All right.

 

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So tell us about that.

 

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So where did you guys go?

 

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So the first trip we took together

 

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was actually Chicago, Illinois.

 

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Nice name. Nice.

 

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All right.

 

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And so was there leg resistance

 

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or was it like,

 

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all right,

 

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you know,

 

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you swept her off her feet

 

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and she was like,

 

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I'll go wherever you tell me.

 

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You

 

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look,

 

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Blake, place like,

 

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hey, I know

 

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she didn't get resistance.

 

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We were just both excited

 

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to go and explore the city together.

 

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Oh, wow. Nice. Nice.

 

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What time of year did you go to Chicago?

 

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Because Chicago came to be different

 

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at different times of the year.

 

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Yeah, it was winter.

 

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So we've been here.

 

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You know, it was nice called

 

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the coldest month of the year.

 

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I mean, but you're.

 

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But you're in New York now,

 

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so you should be accustom. And so.

 

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And it was very much in Pennsylvania.

 

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So, you know, it's cold there, too. Okay.

 

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But I hear

 

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lake effect is always over there,

 

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so I'll go winters.

 

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Same thing as Pittsburgh right now.

 

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That wind is different.

 

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Oh, it was worse.

 

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It was, but still a good time.

 

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It was nice.

 

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You used to live in Chicago, like, okay,

 

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before a little bit before I met him.

 

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So he wanted to, like,

 

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give me a taste of Chicago.

 

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I guess, like, through his eyes.

 

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That was really cool.

 

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We got to do what I like to do and visit

 

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some places that he frequented. So sweet.

 

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And then I have a sister who lives there,

 

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so we drove past our house

 

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and we had to chat for a little bit,

 

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so it was good.

 

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Oh, that sounds cool.

 

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So who decides on like,

 

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so this was the first trip

 

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that took on right

 

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so from that point forward,

 

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you kind of trusted him in like,

 

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all right,

 

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you're not too bad

 

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in this trip planning process.

 

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As you guys move forward,

 

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how do you decide where

 

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to go and who's planning it?

 

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Oh, well,

 

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and if you know me, I'm a little bossy,

 

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so sometimes it's me deciding

 

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whether I'm going to take one with you.

 

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So it's a happy hour.

 

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It's me just deciding what to do.

 

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The trip

 

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that was actually after that was one

 

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with my best friend.

 

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So we had to kind of already,

 

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like, planned it,

 

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but it happened to be a place

 

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you really enjoyed.

 

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So he he's like, hey, like,

 

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maybe I'll come hang out with you guys.

 

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For the weekend.

 

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We're all pretty friendly.

 

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So that's kind of how it happened.

 

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But since then, as far as,

 

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like, planning, it's kind of been both.

 

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We'll just discuss.

 

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He's been

 

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many more places than I have ever been.

 

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So a lot of the times

 

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he'll suggest some places,

 

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the handful that he hasn't been

 

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as options to consider

 

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and just

 

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kind of like, I'm open to anything

 

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because there's just been so many places

 

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I haven't been.

 

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So I'm kind of like,

 

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Okay, cool, let's go.

 

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Where are we going to do?

 

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Or Where are we going to plan to go?

 

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Next?

 

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So logistically,

 

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do you guys shared a planning process

 

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or is it based on

 

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if you're familiar with where you've been

 

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and.

 

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Good question.

 

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That is a good question.

 

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A little bit of both.

 

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So, um,

 

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I think if it's his idea, then I kind of

 

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just go with it completely.

 

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Like whatever.

 

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He's like, Okay,

 

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this is what we're going to do this year.

 

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And I'm like, All right,

 

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I trust him to make a good decision.

 

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Um, if it's something that I

 

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may want to have,

 

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I just

 

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I don't like that

 

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sort of things with that

 

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um,

 

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but if it's something that I've planned

 

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or something that I've worked on,

 

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then I may suggest more things.

 

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But now I'm

 

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trying to be a little more,

 

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a little less

 

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controlling about all the things.

 

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How's that?

 

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How's that coming along?

 

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Oh, okay.

 

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He's going to wait.

 

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We need you over.

 

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By the time this show is over,

 

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I think it's going to be going

 

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okay.

 

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Okay.

 

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So why do you travel?

 

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You had to answer the question of, like,

 

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what makes you want to travel?

 

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What gives you the inspiration to travel?

 

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How would you respond to that?

 

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For me, it started as a child.

 

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So my family on

 

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my mother's side is originally

 

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from Hamilton, Bermuda.

 

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I was younger during my winter break.

 

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So as long as I did

 

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well in school,

 

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every winter recess,

 

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we went to Hamilton

 

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to visit family and friends.

 

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So I've been traveling

 

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at least the Bermuda as early as like

 

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five years old. Nice.

 

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Just like five to like

 

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maybe 14 or 15

 

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went to Bermuda every single year.

 

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And then

 

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I was in the Boy Scouts here in New York

 

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and my Boy

 

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Scout troop went to Saint Lucia twice,

 

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two consecutive summers.

 

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So just those two experiences

 

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like Bermuda

 

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and Saint Lucia

 

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just completely opened my mind

 

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to exploring the world.

 

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And then

 

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and just got the travel

 

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bug like I was

 

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addicted to passport stamps.

 

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Yeah.

 

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So anywhere

 

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I can go just to have a new experience

 

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like got

 

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I might be the person to like

 

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stay at a resort

 

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or I could be the person that'll

 

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I get an Airbnb like when I land.

 

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So I love travel.

 

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So before you continue,

 

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I like the fact that Bermuda was a treat

 

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for a reward and not a punishment.

 

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That's a big reward. Yes.

 

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Because as you know,

 

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some of us West Indian

 

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kids were threatened to be sent back

 

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home.

 

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And Bermuda seems not to be a bad place

 

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to be threatened to go back to bed

 

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so they can leave.

 

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It easily said,

 

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I'm sending you to Bermuda

 

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to live with your cousins.

 

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And I would quickly pack my bags.

 

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Okay.

 

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Um, for me, it was the opposite.

 

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As a kid, we only traveled locally.

 

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My parents chose to spend their money

 

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on my education.

 

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So, like,

 

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I went to private school all my life,

 

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but we always want to vacation

 

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was just to Virginia Beach.

 

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And so when I finally was able

 

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to make some real money

 

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outside of teaching,

 

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I got my passport,

 

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and my first trip

 

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was actually with my best friend

 

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and one of our other coworkers.

 

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To Greece,

 

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and we randomly just selected it.

 

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I know, right?

 

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Like,

 

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how do you randomly let Greece

 

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put it in an app and you're just like,

 

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we're going to go there

 

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we got some pretty good places to stay.

 

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So it was out of

 

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just like not having the opportunity

 

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and recognizing, right?

 

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Like my parents had to choose something.

 

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And so they chose,

 

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I guess, rightfully so in education.

 

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But now I'm just interested

 

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in going as many places as possible

 

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and being able to share some experiences

 

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that I haven't had.

 

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So the thing that I

 

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like to tell people in

 

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I appreciate you sharing

 

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our story is because,

 

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you know,

 

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travel is travel regardless

 

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if you're domestic or international.

 

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And the fact that from album equipment,

 

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you got to go to Virginia Beach,

 

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you know, the demographics in that area,

 

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not everybody is awarded

 

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that opportunity.

 

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So I just want to commend

 

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you guys on being able

 

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that at least to get out,

 

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because western Pennsylvania

 

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by itself is just like

 

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if you can get out,

 

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you get out and you stay out there right

 

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So with that being said, like,

 

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what keeps you guys moving?

 

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Like what keeps you wanting to

 

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what's that thing

 

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that keeps you traveling?

 

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Right.

 

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Like, I know you've got the bug but

 

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what is

 

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the that's

 

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like, yo, I want to go try this place

 

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because for me,

 

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I mean, I like to travel,

 

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I like to eat,

 

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and that's what I'm I'm going to be so

 

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I would say for me is definitely food.

 

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So the other day

 

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I was on TikTok

 

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and I was scrolling

 

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and I saw someone at the state fair

 

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and I was like, hey,

 

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we need to go to Texas.

 

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To the state fair.

 

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I went a few years ago,

 

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I had a co-teacher who was from Texas,

 

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and we went on like an indigenous peoples

 

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weekend, a long weekend,

 

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and we went to the fair

 

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and it was so delicious.

 

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And so

 

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she and I used to joke

 

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all the time, like,

 

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you know,

 

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we're going to start a blog,

 

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going to quit teaching,

 

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we're going to travel the country,

 

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eating our way through life

 

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just to teach

 

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eating our way through life.

 

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So definitely food.

 

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I love food and even architecture.

 

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Like I've never been more mentally

 

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gotten into things like that,

 

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but I love to

 

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I think I

 

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probably get it from my mom,

 

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like sightsee and see pictures, views.

 

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And so that was definitely like

 

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the selling point.

 

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We went to Greece,

 

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like riding on the hill to Oya

 

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and then taking the photos

 

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and it was great.

 

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Okay.

 

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And where before we continue,

 

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where in Greece did you go?

 

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Because, I mean, you,

 

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you clearly didn't

 

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see the censoring cliffs, all flowy

 

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dressing, you know, on your timeline.

 

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So where did you go?

 

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We did.

 

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We went to Santorini, went to Mykonos,

 

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I went to Athens.

 

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I am on social media,

 

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but I'm more of a lurker than a poster

 

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handful of things

 

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but I don't post too much.

 

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Well, if you didn't post you was there.

 

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You have a cookie.

 

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So they say so they say, okay, okay.

 

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And sir, so

 

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so for me, it's the fee, but it's not

 

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the eating I enjoy.

 

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But it's more to say the process.

 

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So I'd say the vast majority of places

 

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I've gone,

 

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I've had the ability to either

 

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do one of those, like, cooking excursions

 

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or like immersing myself,

 

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like in a cooking experience.

 

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Right?

 

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So

 

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a few years back, I know

 

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I can't speak to the place. Go ahead.

 

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Because you got a letter

 

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from January of 2019.

 

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So about July of 2019.

 

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I actually lived in South Korea

 

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during the time that I was there.

 

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I would volunteer every Saturday

 

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or every other Saturday

 

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if I wasn't traveling somewhere else

 

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in a soup kitchen.

 

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So for me it was me and like five other,

 

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like Korean grandmothers

 

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cooking in a kitchen kitchen together.

 

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We couldn't speak the same language.

 

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They knew

 

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I had an idea what I was doing

 

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based on how

 

00:14:01:16 - 00:14:03:05

I was cutting the vegetables.

 

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So they kept giving me more.

 

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But I literally cooked

 

00:14:06:12 - 00:14:08:12

for about 60 people

 

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with these five other women

 

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not being able to communicate

 

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by making all authentic Korean dishes.

 

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So like for me,

 

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traveling is about like immersing myself

 

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in that culture as cuisine

 

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so that I can learn it

 

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and take something away from it

 

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because there's so many different flavors

 

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and smells

 

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that we've never been exposed to before.

 

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And that's amazing

 

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because you touch on that fact how

 

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traveling through food, not

 

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necessarily

 

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into food, but experience

 

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in immersing yourself in the culture.

 

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That's heavy

 

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because one of the things that

 

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a lot of us aren't showing or

 

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are taught early on is to embrace

 

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other people's cultures. Right.

 

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You grew up in Queens, so you knew what

 

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the cultural differences were

 

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and the tension

 

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that that was held

 

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between all of us in the areas

 

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and then especially in the western

 

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Pennsylvania side.

 

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It's it's a

 

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it's a blended community,

 

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but you don't see the culture

 

00:15:06:02 - 00:15:07:07

as much as possible.

 

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So it's amazing that you guys

 

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have that in common

 

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and can actually really be

 

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able to, like express how immensity.

 

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Jackie, anything.

 

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I just want to know

 

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what their most memorable trip

 

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was together.

 

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Like, I understand

 

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your your different aspects of why

 

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you want to travel, your motivation

 

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and what keeps you traveling.

 

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But as a couple,

 

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what was your most

 

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memorable trip together?

 

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So we haven't traveled

 

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like a whole bunch of places.

 

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So I would say definitely

 

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going to Costa Rica I love the beach.

 

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It is my like Zen place.

 

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If I could live in a house by the water

 

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and like see the sunrise and sunset,

 

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I'd be happy my happier self every day.

 

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So I would say

 

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definitely Costa Rica,

 

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being at the beach,

 

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being able to be free

 

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away from work

 

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and all those things would

 

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definitely be it for me.

 

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Yeah, yeah.

 

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I would say the same just because like

 

00:16:00:17 - 00:16:02:20

we this travel journey of ours

 

00:16:02:20 - 00:16:04:19

is still relatively new.

 

00:16:04:19 - 00:16:05:03

So like

 

00:16:05:03 - 00:16:06:17

Chicago was just

 

00:16:06:17 - 00:16:09:04

the early part of this year.

 

00:16:09:04 - 00:16:11:05

So while we have like

 

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we're going

 

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to DC like tomorrow as an example.

 

00:16:14:24 - 00:16:16:22

Oh really tomorrow?

 

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And then in February I'm going to

 

00:16:19:23 - 00:16:21:02

a Dominican Republic

 

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so that the journey investigating

 

00:16:23:00 - 00:16:25:11

the travel is still spread here.

 

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Yeah.

 

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Mm hmm.

 

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That's dope as dope.

 

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And so like with it being so fresh,

 

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are there challenges

 

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as it relates to kind of like

 

00:16:34:20 - 00:16:36:10

navigating this travel journey?

 

00:16:36:10 - 00:16:36:15

Right,

 

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because you're in the logistics, right?

 

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And then you're a principal.

 

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So, you know,

 

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when she's off,

 

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that's the most expensive tickets

 

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out there, right?

 

00:16:46:19 - 00:16:47:24

Oh, she seems like.

 

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Yeah, she's the principal

 

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and she can almost tell the assistant

 

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principal, look,

 

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you got this

 

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and then take that little bit of time.

 

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Is that true, though?

 

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So I, I have worked with my organization

 

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for almost eight years,

 

00:17:00:23 - 00:17:02:02

and so I have earned

 

00:17:02:02 - 00:17:03:17

a level of flexibility.

 

00:17:03:17 - 00:17:05:20

Our superintendent is pretty flexible.

 

00:17:05:20 - 00:17:06:04

It's funny,

 

00:17:06:04 - 00:17:07:13

he actually knows well,

 

00:17:07:13 - 00:17:08:17

they don't know each other well,

 

00:17:08:17 - 00:17:09:02

but like, he's

 

00:17:09:02 - 00:17:10:05

met him and knows that, like,

 

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our relationship is long distance

 

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and so he's always like,

 

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if you need more time

 

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or you need an extra day.

 

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So he's understanding to the nuances

 

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of our relationship,

 

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and I appreciate that.

 

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So it's comes nice.

 

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Like the principal cloud,

 

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but also just having been there

 

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for a little while. Okay.

 

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So, so you're saying

 

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two pages

 

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question scheduling is not

 

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is not a challenge.

 

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Um, it is because he works a lot.

 

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His industry is also in those times

 

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that I'm also like

 

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during the holiday season there is,

 

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there is no time.

 

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So that's

 

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why we're going to air in February.

 

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His birthday is actually next month

 

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and it's his 40th birthday sort of like,

 

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oh, let's

 

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do something really cool together.

 

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He likes to travel.

 

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I don't think he's been to bars.

 

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I'm like, this will be a good time.

 

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Oh yeah.

 

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There's the way we could go

 

00:18:00:02 - 00:18:03:02

next month because in the industry

 

00:18:03:02 - 00:18:03:20

that he's in,

 

00:18:03:20 - 00:18:05:24

if it's a holiday, then he's locked down.

 

00:18:06:09 - 00:18:07:24

Right, right.

 

00:18:07:24 - 00:18:08:06

Yeah.

 

00:18:08:06 - 00:18:08:18

So I mean,

 

00:18:08:18 - 00:18:09:23

there are some challenges,

 

00:18:09:23 - 00:18:11:04

but I wouldn't say that's the biggest

 

00:18:11:04 - 00:18:13:12

challenge is probably the way we travel.

 

00:18:13:14 - 00:18:13:19

Like,

 

00:18:13:19 - 00:18:16:01

he is very organized

 

00:18:16:08 - 00:18:17:18

and creates the list,

 

00:18:17:18 - 00:18:18:09

but it's good

 

00:18:18:09 - 00:18:19:07

because that's not who I am.

 

00:18:19:07 - 00:18:20:18

That's not my ministry

 

00:18:20:18 - 00:18:23:01

way Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

 

00:18:23:02 - 00:18:23:22

Let's go back.

 

00:18:23:22 - 00:18:25:14

Let's go back for a sec.

 

00:18:25:14 - 00:18:27:13

He's saying he's booking Airbnbs

 

00:18:27:13 - 00:18:28:19

when he lands.

 

00:18:28:19 - 00:18:29:15

So what what

 

00:18:29:15 - 00:18:32:00

what makes you say that he's more planned

 

00:18:32:01 - 00:18:33:08

or that you are at peace?

 

00:18:33:08 - 00:18:35:20

Like, I'm wing it when I get there.

 

00:18:36:10 - 00:18:39:05

So the winging it is something that he is

 

00:18:39:05 - 00:18:40:03

most definitely done

 

00:18:40:03 - 00:18:42:12

as a single man by himself

 

00:18:42:12 - 00:18:45:09

in a relationship, though, the list

 

00:18:45:17 - 00:18:46:11

he writes. Got it.

 

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And he's quiet, but he knows it's him.

 

00:18:50:07 - 00:18:52:07

I will pull up my phone.

 

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He's dead again.

 

00:18:53:24 - 00:18:56:03

I will tell you a list. Don't do that.

 

00:18:56:03 - 00:18:58:17

So so let's let's talk about this. Right.

 

00:18:58:17 - 00:19:00:16

So I got another list.

 

00:19:00:16 - 00:19:02:01

I'm asking you guys about what?

 

00:19:02:01 - 00:19:03:05

Let's talk about this list.

 

00:19:03:05 - 00:19:05:18

Is this like a trip ready list?

 

00:19:06:04 - 00:19:08:00

Like WhatsApp?

 

00:19:08:00 - 00:19:08:09

Yeah.

 

00:19:08:09 - 00:19:09:06

I want to know what

 

00:19:09:06 - 00:19:11:05

looks like a fool itinerary

 

00:19:11:05 - 00:19:13:13

from when you need to start packing

 

00:19:13:13 - 00:19:14:13

too early.

 

00:19:14:13 - 00:19:15:18

Check in

 

00:19:15:18 - 00:19:17:09

to when you guys

 

00:19:17:09 - 00:19:19:03

get there in a full itinerary.

 

00:19:19:03 - 00:19:21:08

It's not that bad. Oh, no.

 

00:19:21:19 - 00:19:23:14

Definitely what to bring.

 

00:19:23:14 - 00:19:24:11

I am a person

 

00:19:24:11 - 00:19:26:14

who will pack at the last minute

 

00:19:26:14 - 00:19:28:13

and my last minute.

 

00:19:28:13 - 00:19:30:13

You know, the day before

 

00:19:30:14 - 00:19:32:09

something like 2 hours

 

00:19:32:09 - 00:19:33:04

before you're supposed to leave

 

00:19:33:04 - 00:19:33:20

the house.

 

00:19:33:20 - 00:19:35:11

You know, listen,

 

00:19:35:11 - 00:19:36:23

I could be making amendments up

 

00:19:36:23 - 00:19:38:08

until that time.

 

00:19:38:08 - 00:19:39:10

Okay,

 

00:19:39:17 - 00:19:41:09

so my list of just all the items

 

00:19:41:09 - 00:19:43:11

you need. Okay?

 

00:19:43:11 - 00:19:44:05

I mean, there's great

 

00:19:44:05 - 00:19:44:18

list, though,

 

00:19:44:18 - 00:19:46:03

because I need

 

00:19:46:03 - 00:19:48:00

I'm a person who needs a list

 

00:19:48:00 - 00:19:48:22

of that of work.

 

00:19:48:22 - 00:19:50:00

I'm very, you know, in work.

 

00:19:50:00 - 00:19:51:02

I'm very organized.

 

00:19:51:02 - 00:19:52:08

And, you know, I run the show,

 

00:19:52:08 - 00:19:53:10

but in my personal life, it's

 

00:19:53:10 - 00:19:54:06

a little chaotic,

 

00:19:54:06 - 00:19:56:15

and so a list is helpful.

 

00:19:56:15 - 00:19:57:17

Okay. Okay.

 

00:19:57:17 - 00:19:58:22

So speaking of lists.

 

00:19:58:22 - 00:19:59:07

All right,

 

00:19:59:07 - 00:20:01:20

so I know you guys have mentioned

 

00:20:02:15 - 00:20:03:14

you guys got a couple of

 

00:20:03:14 - 00:20:04:24

trips lined up, right?

 

00:20:06:11 - 00:20:08:07

Do you guys

 

00:20:08:09 - 00:20:10:11

have guys talked about like a top

 

00:20:10:11 - 00:20:12:17

five places to go

 

00:20:13:19 - 00:20:15:21

We have not talked about how five places

 

00:20:15:21 - 00:20:16:04

he has

 

00:20:16:04 - 00:20:16:16

and places

 

00:20:16:16 - 00:20:17:12

he would like to go

 

00:20:17:12 - 00:20:18:08

that are on his list

 

00:20:18:08 - 00:20:19:16

that he shared with me,

 

00:20:19:16 - 00:20:21:07

which is where I pulled air from.

 

00:20:21:07 - 00:20:23:00

I have like the list of like

 

00:20:23:00 - 00:20:24:05

for my 40th birthday.

 

00:20:24:05 - 00:20:25:24

Here's what I would like to do.

 

00:20:25:24 - 00:20:26:10

But we haven't

 

00:20:26:10 - 00:20:27:07

necessarily shared

 

00:20:27:07 - 00:20:29:18

like here's a list of places,

 

00:20:29:18 - 00:20:31:01

so let's see it. Wow.

 

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You share your top,

 

00:20:32:00 - 00:20:33:03

your separate top five

 

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and let's see how many on there collide.

 

00:20:35:17 - 00:20:37:12

Let's see what the similarities are.

 

00:20:37:12 - 00:20:38:24

Not five.

 

00:20:38:24 - 00:20:40:09

I don't even know if I have a top five.

 

00:20:40:09 - 00:20:42:13

So the place I would love to go to next

 

00:20:42:13 - 00:20:43:20

is like the Maldives.

 

00:20:43:20 - 00:20:46:11

I the water overwater bungalows.

 

00:20:46:11 - 00:20:47:21

That's that's where I'm living.

 

00:20:49:08 - 00:20:50:20

I would most certainly

 

00:20:50:20 - 00:20:52:00

I have to put this on my list

 

00:20:52:00 - 00:20:54:15

because it's actually my son's top place.

 

00:20:54:15 - 00:20:56:07

He's dying to go to Egypt.

 

00:20:56:07 - 00:20:57:09

He's been wanting to go there.

 

00:20:57:09 - 00:20:58:04

He's seven,

 

00:20:58:04 - 00:20:59:03

but he's been wanting to go there

 

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for a really, really long time.

 

00:21:00:17 - 00:21:01:07

And he's like, Mom,

 

00:21:01:07 - 00:21:02:05

we really need to go there.

 

00:21:02:05 - 00:21:04:04

And I was like, I got you.

 

00:21:04:04 - 00:21:06:17

I would love to do some Southeast Asia.

 

00:21:07:08 - 00:21:07:17

My friend

 

00:21:07:17 - 00:21:09:23

Jessica and my friend

 

00:21:10:03 - 00:21:11:15

Danielle talk about it all the time.

 

00:21:11:15 - 00:21:14:10

They're places that they've traveled.

 

00:21:14:10 - 00:21:15:12

South Africa is a place

 

00:21:15:12 - 00:21:17:15

I know that's on his list.

 

00:21:17:15 - 00:21:19:24

That's what for

 

00:21:19:24 - 00:21:21:14

a number five.

 

00:21:21:14 - 00:21:22:01

I don't know.

 

00:21:22:01 - 00:21:25:15

I don't have a no, a number five.

 

00:21:26:01 - 00:21:27:11

I'm I'm really open.

 

00:21:27:11 - 00:21:30:07

Like I said, I haven't been many places

 

00:21:30:07 - 00:21:31:13

so I'm open to

 

00:21:32:15 - 00:21:33:20

wherever.

 

00:21:34:15 - 00:21:35:03

Okay.

 

00:21:35:22 - 00:21:38:09

For me, it's going to be.

 

00:21:38:09 - 00:21:40:10

And she lives South America,

 

00:21:42:03 - 00:21:43:23

Cape Town, South Africa.

 

00:21:43:23 - 00:21:46:21

Mm. And

 

00:21:46:21 - 00:21:48:00

Russia.

 

00:21:50:18 - 00:21:52:12

Switzerland.

 

00:21:52:12 - 00:21:55:00

Oh, and

 

00:21:56:15 - 00:21:59:10

Monterey, California.

 

00:21:59:15 - 00:22:00:21

Wow.

 

00:22:00:21 - 00:22:01:20

Nice list.

 

00:22:01:20 - 00:22:04:06

This list had it. Monterey, California.

 

00:22:04:06 - 00:22:05:08

Ended up one there.

 

00:22:05:08 - 00:22:07:03

Nothing question.

 

00:22:07:08 - 00:22:10:01

She'd like added that.

 

00:22:10:01 - 00:22:12:15

So so then there's no.

 

00:22:12:15 - 00:22:13:17

So then in Monterey,

 

00:22:13:17 - 00:22:17:11

California, a few times,

 

00:22:17:11 - 00:22:19:20

I took a round trip back in

 

00:22:19:20 - 00:22:22:08

2016 of the entire Pacific Coast Highway

 

00:22:22:08 - 00:22:23:21

from north to south.

 

00:22:23:21 - 00:22:26:05

She started that Redwood National Park.

 

00:22:26:14 - 00:22:27:00

I made my way

 

00:22:27:00 - 00:22:28:14

all the way to San Diego

 

00:22:28:14 - 00:22:32:12

Monterey is just a little quaint town

 

00:22:32:22 - 00:22:33:09

right there

 

00:22:33:09 - 00:22:35:06

on the Pacific Coast

 

00:22:35:06 - 00:22:37:07

that has family and feed

 

00:22:37:18 - 00:22:40:01

and just really good views of the ocean.

 

00:22:40:01 - 00:22:41:00

Yeah,

 

00:22:41:03 - 00:22:43:04

we had the opportunity to stop there

 

00:22:43:05 - 00:22:45:17

and I trip to a recent trip to California

 

00:22:45:17 - 00:22:46:11

where we did

 

00:22:46:11 - 00:22:47:13

not the whole coast

 

00:22:47:13 - 00:22:50:18

we just did from Oakland down to L.A.

 

00:22:51:03 - 00:22:52:08

But we stopped in Monterey.

 

00:22:52:08 - 00:22:53:21

He actually had to take a call.

 

00:22:53:21 - 00:22:55:18

But travel Tuesday,

 

00:22:55:18 - 00:22:57:19

you got to work, you know, it's season.

 

00:22:57:19 - 00:22:59:07

So we had the beautiful views

 

00:22:59:07 - 00:23:00:08

that you were talking about

 

00:23:00:08 - 00:23:02:01

and his background in the,

 

00:23:02:01 - 00:23:03:23

you know, in the in the video,

 

00:23:03:23 - 00:23:05:01

the show must go on.

 

00:23:05:01 - 00:23:08:05

You know, it's not make sure it works.

 

00:23:08:08 - 00:23:09:17

It was perfect, you know?

 

00:23:09:17 - 00:23:11:03

Yeah. Yeah.

 

00:23:11:03 - 00:23:12:11

So I mean,

 

00:23:12:11 - 00:23:13:08

one of the most beautiful places

 

00:23:13:08 - 00:23:14:18

I've been in the United States.

 

00:23:14:18 - 00:23:16:10

Yeah. Monterey is gorgeous.

 

00:23:16:10 - 00:23:18:16

I agree. Okay.

 

00:23:18:16 - 00:23:19:24

So I want to kind of shift

 

00:23:19:24 - 00:23:21:08

the topic a little bit

 

00:23:22:09 - 00:23:24:22

to kind of like

 

00:23:25:17 - 00:23:28:23

traveling while black right individually

 

00:23:29:04 - 00:23:30:21

and then act together and,

 

00:23:30:21 - 00:23:31:04

you know,

 

00:23:31:04 - 00:23:32:21

what has that experience

 

00:23:32:21 - 00:23:35:12

been like for you all traveling

 

00:23:36:01 - 00:23:36:17

do you take any

 

00:23:36:17 - 00:23:40:10

additional safety precautions,

 

00:23:40:24 - 00:23:43:01

any measures that you think

 

00:23:43:09 - 00:23:45:13

our non-black people

 

00:23:45:13 - 00:23:48:02

don't have to consider when you travel

 

00:23:50:06 - 00:23:50:19

yeah.

 

00:23:50:19 - 00:23:51:20

Well, this is a topic

 

00:23:51:20 - 00:23:53:04

he just made us sound like

 

00:23:53:04 - 00:23:54:16

because I'm always talking

 

00:23:54:16 - 00:23:55:21

about black people stuff

 

00:23:55:21 - 00:23:56:14

because, you know,

 

00:23:56:14 - 00:23:59:02

I am with the black and the brown

 

00:23:59:02 - 00:23:59:22

babies all day.

 

00:23:59:22 - 00:24:01:22

So, yeah, I think about condoms.

 

00:24:02:08 - 00:24:03:15

I do a lot of Googling.

 

00:24:03:15 - 00:24:05:00

I'm always interested to know,

 

00:24:05:00 - 00:24:06:23

like how people of color

 

00:24:06:23 - 00:24:08:04

are welcomed in an area.

 

00:24:08:04 - 00:24:10:23

If there's information like that's public

 

00:24:10:23 - 00:24:12:05

or searching on travel

 

00:24:12:05 - 00:24:13:05

blogs of other folks

 

00:24:13:05 - 00:24:14:11

to find out more information

 

00:24:14:11 - 00:24:16:07

to see if they have experienced

 

00:24:16:07 - 00:24:18:03

any issues.

 

00:24:18:03 - 00:24:19:04

It's funny that you mention it

 

00:24:19:04 - 00:24:20:03

because when I was in Greece,

 

00:24:20:03 - 00:24:21:14

I was actually with two white women

 

00:24:21:14 - 00:24:23:00

and I was

 

00:24:23:03 - 00:24:25:04

the only person of color with them.

 

00:24:25:04 - 00:24:27:07

And when we were on the bus

 

00:24:27:07 - 00:24:28:19

and make a note traveling

 

00:24:28:19 - 00:24:30:15

there were some men from the Netherlands

 

00:24:30:15 - 00:24:32:08

and they were like looking at me

 

00:24:32:08 - 00:24:34:10

and like making commentary.

 

00:24:34:10 - 00:24:35:09

But, you know, you could tell

 

00:24:35:09 - 00:24:37:00

they were talking about me.

 

00:24:37:00 - 00:24:38:06

And yeah,

 

00:24:38:06 - 00:24:39:04

I probably

 

00:24:39:04 - 00:24:39:24

I think on the bus

 

00:24:39:24 - 00:24:41:18

was probably also the only black person

 

00:24:43:08 - 00:24:44:24

in you made my one from really upset.

 

00:24:44:24 - 00:24:46:10

So much so that we may

 

00:24:46:10 - 00:24:47:16

or may not in our New York

 

00:24:47:16 - 00:24:50:03

way, got into a little conversation

 

00:24:50:03 - 00:24:51:10

with them about it later

 

00:24:51:10 - 00:24:53:00

when we saw them, you know,

 

00:24:53:00 - 00:24:54:14

but at any rate,

 

00:24:55:06 - 00:24:56:21

may or may not

 

00:25:01:11 - 00:25:03:00

but for the most part,

 

00:25:03:00 - 00:25:04:14

I haven't had too many issues. Right?

 

00:25:04:14 - 00:25:05:24

So like that was one instance

 

00:25:05:24 - 00:25:07:18

where there was some commentary

 

00:25:07:18 - 00:25:08:09

and we just kind of

 

00:25:08:09 - 00:25:09:09

were really direct with them

 

00:25:09:09 - 00:25:11:15

about the noticing of them

 

00:25:11:15 - 00:25:12:07

speaking to us.

 

00:25:12:07 - 00:25:12:20

I mean, it could have

 

00:25:12:20 - 00:25:13:13

probably gone another way.

 

00:25:13:13 - 00:25:14:18

But like I said, as New Yorkers,

 

00:25:14:18 - 00:25:15:20

we kind of toe

 

00:25:15:20 - 00:25:17:07

the line of what may be appropriate

 

00:25:17:07 - 00:25:18:15

and inappropriate

 

00:25:18:21 - 00:25:21:05

but I often worry about those things.

 

00:25:21:14 - 00:25:22:20

Even traveling

 

00:25:22:20 - 00:25:24:04

in the United States right now

 

00:25:24:04 - 00:25:25:07

or even internationally,

 

00:25:25:07 - 00:25:26:04

something I get on him

 

00:25:26:04 - 00:25:27:16

all the time about, it's like

 

00:25:27:16 - 00:25:29:03

make sure you let me know where you are,

 

00:25:29:03 - 00:25:30:03

where you're going to be

 

00:25:30:03 - 00:25:31:12

or where you're driving.

 

00:25:31:12 - 00:25:33:03

Like, how are you getting there?

 

00:25:33:03 - 00:25:35:13

Who else are you going to be with him

 

00:25:35:17 - 00:25:37:07

or traveling anywhere

 

00:25:37:07 - 00:25:38:05

while being black is

 

00:25:38:05 - 00:25:40:15

something that comes to mind

 

00:25:42:00 - 00:25:42:15

for me and is

 

00:25:42:15 - 00:25:46:03

something that I worry about.

 

00:25:46:11 - 00:25:49:12

Um, for me,

 

00:25:50:13 - 00:25:51:01

for me it's

 

00:25:51:01 - 00:25:51:14

been interesting

 

00:25:51:14 - 00:25:52:20

just because of all the places

 

00:25:52:20 - 00:25:54:21

that I've been by myself.

 

00:25:54:21 - 00:25:58:13

So I'll take like living in Korea itself

 

00:25:58:13 - 00:26:00:12

was its own experience. Right?

 

00:26:00:12 - 00:26:01:16

The advantage that I have of

 

00:26:01:16 - 00:26:01:23

at least

 

00:26:01:23 - 00:26:02:23

where my house was,

 

00:26:02:23 - 00:26:04:04

that was right

 

00:26:04:04 - 00:26:05:22

next to one of the larger

 

00:26:05:22 - 00:26:08:00

Army installations in Korea.

 

00:26:08:12 - 00:26:08:21

So people

 

00:26:08:21 - 00:26:10:16

just everyone in that area was accustomed

 

00:26:10:16 - 00:26:12:12

to seeing people that look like me

 

00:26:12:12 - 00:26:13:13

because the military base

 

00:26:13:13 - 00:26:15:11

was right next door.

 

00:26:15:11 - 00:26:18:10

But it would be that random IKEA

 

00:26:18:10 - 00:26:20:02

that I would go into three out

 

00:26:20:02 - 00:26:22:16

3 hours outside of Seoul city limits,

 

00:26:23:04 - 00:26:24:15

where there's no one at all

 

00:26:24:15 - 00:26:25:20

that looks like me, aside

 

00:26:25:20 - 00:26:27:01

from if you turn on your television.

 

00:26:27:01 - 00:26:28:10

So here I am

 

00:26:28:10 - 00:26:30:02

asking for Swedish

 

00:26:30:02 - 00:26:32:16

meatballs, mashed potatoes

 

00:26:32:16 - 00:26:34:20

and and some legendary juice

 

00:26:35:04 - 00:26:36:09

and people just staring

 

00:26:36:09 - 00:26:38:13

because I'm the only person there

 

00:26:38:13 - 00:26:41:22

or going to a gym to play basketball

 

00:26:42:07 - 00:26:44:03

and seeing some little kids, you know,

 

00:26:44:03 - 00:26:46:08

they're with their coach and children

 

00:26:46:08 - 00:26:48:11

who speak English very, very well.

 

00:26:48:11 - 00:26:50:03

There and there were a lot of them.

 

00:26:50:03 - 00:26:51:04

Just because I was black

 

00:26:51:04 - 00:26:52:12

and shooting around,

 

00:26:52:12 - 00:26:53:15

they asked me if I could dunk and

 

00:26:53:15 - 00:26:54:11

I was like, no, I can't

 

00:26:57:06 - 00:26:57:21

but then,

 

00:26:57:21 - 00:27:00:18

like, instances of like, going to Spanish

 

00:27:00:22 - 00:27:02:19

speaking countries,

 

00:27:02:19 - 00:27:04:17

you know, not staying in a hotel,

 

00:27:04:17 - 00:27:05:16

having to meet someone

 

00:27:05:16 - 00:27:06:23

randomly like in an alley

 

00:27:06:23 - 00:27:09:18

to get a key for Airbnb.

 

00:27:09:19 - 00:27:10:12

Right.

 

00:27:11:23 - 00:27:14:00

It's been challenging, but I just

 

00:27:14:00 - 00:27:15:05

because it's important to me

 

00:27:15:05 - 00:27:16:13

to, like, really immerse myself

 

00:27:16:13 - 00:27:18:11

in those countries culture, like

 

00:27:18:11 - 00:27:19:00

my Spanish

 

00:27:19:00 - 00:27:21:23

is pretty decent to be able to navigate.

 

00:27:21:23 - 00:27:23:07

My Korean is pretty decent

 

00:27:23:07 - 00:27:24:06

to be able to navigate,

 

00:27:24:06 - 00:27:25:16

like at least restaurant

 

00:27:25:16 - 00:27:27:22

Korean and banking Korean, to be able

 

00:27:27:22 - 00:27:29:10

to eat and get money

 

00:27:29:10 - 00:27:29:23

and things

 

00:27:29:23 - 00:27:30:11

like a little bit

 

00:27:30:11 - 00:27:31:13

of Japanese

 

00:27:31:13 - 00:27:34:05

there in times that I've been to Tokyo.

 

00:27:34:05 - 00:27:37:19

So yeah, like for me it's important to

 

00:27:37:19 - 00:27:39:01

just be always mindful

 

00:27:39:01 - 00:27:39:24

of my surroundings, right?

 

00:27:39:24 - 00:27:41:07

So like I have

 

00:27:41:07 - 00:27:42:22

this because I've been to like Jamaica,

 

00:27:42:22 - 00:27:43:21

Costa Rica a lot.

 

00:27:43:21 - 00:27:46:13

Like I have a Costa Rican SIM card,

 

00:27:47:02 - 00:27:48:12

a Jamaican SIM card, right?

 

00:27:48:12 - 00:27:49:20

So that I always have a cell phone

 

00:27:49:20 - 00:27:51:11

that if I do need to be able

 

00:27:51:11 - 00:27:52:15

to get a hold of somebody,

 

00:27:52:15 - 00:27:53:19

I could easily just pick up the phone

 

00:27:55:21 - 00:27:56:17

and so as

 

00:27:56:17 - 00:28:00:01

a unit, have you guys seen I don't know.

 

00:28:00:01 - 00:28:00:17

You guys mentioned

 

00:28:00:17 - 00:28:02:09

you haven't traveled a lot, but

 

00:28:02:09 - 00:28:03:07

have you seen a difference

 

00:28:03:07 - 00:28:05:07

in how people see you right?

 

00:28:06:06 - 00:28:08:05

Perception of a woman by herself

 

00:28:08:05 - 00:28:10:18

or perception of a man by himself

 

00:28:10:18 - 00:28:11:07

is different

 

00:28:11:07 - 00:28:13:13

when they're combined because as a couple

 

00:28:15:01 - 00:28:16:22

as a as a man with woman, you're left,

 

00:28:16:22 - 00:28:18:17

right, right.

 

00:28:18:17 - 00:28:20:06

And I use air quotes.

 

00:28:20:06 - 00:28:22:08

As a woman, you're less approachable.

 

00:28:22:08 - 00:28:24:15

Yeah. Air quotes, right.

 

00:28:24:15 - 00:28:25:24

Do you guys see that

 

00:28:25:24 - 00:28:27:24

or you guys really haven't

 

00:28:29:00 - 00:28:31:07

gone far enough to really see where

 

00:28:31:07 - 00:28:32:21

that's a difference.

 

00:28:32:21 - 00:28:34:06

I would say I agree

 

00:28:34:06 - 00:28:35:21

especially when he was in Costa

 

00:28:35:21 - 00:28:37:23

Rica with us and then when he left.

 

00:28:37:23 - 00:28:41:06

So Jessica and I are always

 

00:28:41:06 - 00:28:42:10

and it's even in New York,

 

00:28:42:10 - 00:28:44:22

I sit on a bench alone in New York, and

 

00:28:45:14 - 00:28:46:16

eight out of ten

 

00:28:46:16 - 00:28:47:21

people are going to come

 

00:28:47:21 - 00:28:48:16

and look at me

 

00:28:48:16 - 00:28:49:14

or say something to me,

 

00:28:49:14 - 00:28:51:04

like random strangers

 

00:28:51:04 - 00:28:52:23

in the street will approach me

 

00:28:52:23 - 00:28:54:17

about a variety of things.

 

00:28:54:17 - 00:28:55:15

And so she when she and

 

00:28:55:15 - 00:28:57:05

I were just together on the beach,

 

00:28:57:05 - 00:28:58:13

you know, people may come over to us

 

00:28:58:13 - 00:28:59:17

and try to sell things to words

 

00:28:59:17 - 00:29:01:04

or just talk to us generally.

 

00:29:01:04 - 00:29:02:06

But if he was there, it was

 

00:29:02:06 - 00:29:03:02

kind of like, oh,

 

00:29:04:05 - 00:29:05:09

never mind.

 

00:29:05:09 - 00:29:05:16

Right.

 

00:29:05:16 - 00:29:07:15

And so I do think that sometimes involves

 

00:29:07:15 - 00:29:09:03

sea women alone.

 

00:29:09:03 - 00:29:10:19

We are targets,

 

00:29:10:19 - 00:29:11:09

if you will,

 

00:29:11:09 - 00:29:12:18

and for lack of better words,

 

00:29:12:18 - 00:29:15:01

of solicitation of things

 

00:29:15:01 - 00:29:17:10

or just someone wanting to talk to us

 

00:29:17:10 - 00:29:18:05

generally.

 

00:29:18:05 - 00:29:19:13

Whereas if I'm with him

 

00:29:19:13 - 00:29:20:09

walking down the street,

 

00:29:20:09 - 00:29:21:13

nobody says anything.

 

00:29:21:13 - 00:29:22:24

Even in my own neighborhood,

 

00:29:22:24 - 00:29:24:11

someone who may stop me

 

00:29:24:11 - 00:29:26:13

and say something to me,

 

00:29:26:13 - 00:29:28:19

it's like I don't exist.

 

00:29:28:19 - 00:29:29:05

You got

 

00:29:29:05 - 00:29:32:03

you got your personal bodyguard, right?

 

00:29:32:03 - 00:29:33:06

Then I pressed for it.

 

00:29:33:06 - 00:29:34:14

Right? Right.

 

00:29:34:14 - 00:29:37:15

So do you see a difference in how

 

00:29:38:11 - 00:29:41:19

people see you when you return?

 

00:29:44:24 - 00:29:48:16

No, I don't see

 

00:29:49:10 - 00:29:50:19

interesting.

 

00:29:50:20 - 00:29:53:17

So I just throw a scenario, right?

 

00:29:53:17 - 00:29:55:21

You're in the street walking by itself

 

00:29:55:21 - 00:29:58:16

is Karen walking across the street or

 

00:29:59:17 - 00:30:01:20

is she just walking past jog

 

00:30:01:21 - 00:30:02:16

because you are together

 

00:30:09:16 - 00:30:11:08

doesn't even occur to you.

 

00:30:11:08 - 00:30:11:22

Right?

 

00:30:12:06 - 00:30:13:17

And it might not even occur to you.

 

00:30:13:17 - 00:30:15:09

You might not even think about, like,

 

00:30:15:09 - 00:30:18:11

consider a like it's been it's

 

00:30:18:11 - 00:30:21:02

been a long time in the United States

 

00:30:21:02 - 00:30:22:07

that Karen is

 

00:30:22:07 - 00:30:24:12

as close to a person walk the other way.

 

00:30:24:20 - 00:30:26:05

Mhm.

 

00:30:28:02 - 00:30:28:20

I'd say the only time

 

00:30:28:20 - 00:30:30:01

that I might have seen that

 

00:30:30:01 - 00:30:31:00

a handful of times

 

00:30:31:00 - 00:30:32:10

was when I was in Korea,

 

00:30:32:10 - 00:30:33:03

like outside,

 

00:30:33:03 - 00:30:35:09

like hours outside of Seoul,

 

00:30:35:09 - 00:30:36:15

you know, and countrysides

 

00:30:36:15 - 00:30:38:07

and people were because

 

00:30:38:07 - 00:30:39:05

yeah, I'm trying to figure it out.

 

00:30:39:05 - 00:30:41:00

Look like me is on television.

 

00:30:41:00 - 00:30:42:15

Mhm. Gotcha.

 

00:30:43:01 - 00:30:43:22

Okay.

 

00:30:43:22 - 00:30:45:03

But now

 

00:30:46:13 - 00:30:46:22

all right.

 

00:30:46:22 - 00:30:49:16

So have you ever felt unsafe

 

00:30:49:16 - 00:30:53:00

anywhere where you traveled with her.

 

00:30:53:01 - 00:30:54:11

Have you. Ever since.

 

00:30:54:11 - 00:30:55:18

Yeah. All the time.

 

00:30:55:18 - 00:30:57:20

And there's a part of me

 

00:30:57:20 - 00:30:59:01

that my dad puts himself

 

00:30:59:01 - 00:31:01:09

sometimes in unsafe situations.

 

00:31:01:09 - 00:31:02:20

So I mean

 

00:31:02:21 - 00:31:05:08

he was more like the Korean version

 

00:31:05:08 - 00:31:06:05

of Craigslist

 

00:31:07:06 - 00:31:09:22

and find somebody that created a post

 

00:31:09:24 - 00:31:11:14

already shaking her head.

 

00:31:11:14 - 00:31:12:21

But since he's somebody that might

 

00:31:12:21 - 00:31:13:23

I can be sorry,

 

00:31:13:23 - 00:31:15:05

that's a guy that created a post

 

00:31:15:05 - 00:31:17:21

for like a poker tournament.

 

00:31:17:21 - 00:31:19:16

So I sent him a message.

 

00:31:19:16 - 00:31:20:14

And like this,

 

00:31:20:14 - 00:31:21:24

the Korean version of WhatsApp

 

00:31:21:24 - 00:31:23:11

it's called Kakao.

 

00:31:23:11 - 00:31:24:04

So some of the messaging

 

00:31:24:04 - 00:31:25:23

Kakao gave me an address,

 

00:31:25:23 - 00:31:27:24

told me to meet him at this location.

 

00:31:27:24 - 00:31:29:07

I met him at this location.

 

00:31:29:07 - 00:31:31:13

It was behind some back door

 

00:31:31:13 - 00:31:33:17

and the back of a convenience store

 

00:31:33:23 - 00:31:36:00

had a full casino room in there.

 

00:31:36:17 - 00:31:38:09

And I played poker.

 

00:31:38:09 - 00:31:38:16

I mean, it's

 

00:31:38:16 - 00:31:40:03

how bought him for like the U.S.

 

00:31:40:03 - 00:31:42:20

equivalent of like $300.

 

00:31:43:05 - 00:31:43:13

Mm.

 

00:31:43:20 - 00:31:44:23

No one in the room is I'm

 

00:31:44:23 - 00:31:46:13

the guy that invited me

 

00:31:46:13 - 00:31:48:17

at the time I knew to speak English,

 

00:31:49:17 - 00:31:52:00

but was it a matter of

 

00:31:52:00 - 00:31:54:02

I don't know, 5 hours,

 

00:31:54:02 - 00:31:56:05

my $300 USD equivalent

 

00:31:56:19 - 00:31:59:17

turned into like 14,000.

 

00:32:00:01 - 00:32:02:02

The US equivalent whoo hoo.

 

00:32:02:21 - 00:32:05:03

And then the next town was shark.

 

00:32:05:13 - 00:32:06:04

Then the next time

 

00:32:06:04 - 00:32:08:06

I was like another 10,000

 

00:32:08:06 - 00:32:10:04

right there in time.

 

00:32:10:04 - 00:32:11:06

And although I might have walked away

 

00:32:11:06 - 00:32:12:22

with like 5000,

 

00:32:12:22 - 00:32:13:13

I ended up like,

 

00:32:13:13 - 00:32:14:22

you know, losing a little bit

 

00:32:14:22 - 00:32:16:16

so they wouldn't be intimidated by me.

 

00:32:16:16 - 00:32:17:08

Okay.

 

00:32:17:14 - 00:32:18:20

But like if at any time

 

00:32:18:20 - 00:32:20:17

that place would have gotten raided

 

00:32:20:17 - 00:32:21:03

like this

 

00:32:21:03 - 00:32:23:12

wouldn't even be a video interview,

 

00:32:24:24 - 00:32:27:02

I would still be in a prison somewhere

 

00:32:28:16 - 00:32:30:06

so I need to back you

 

00:32:30:06 - 00:32:31:14

at the next poker tournament.

 

00:32:31:14 - 00:32:32:21

Is that what you're saying?

 

00:32:32:21 - 00:32:34:20

Or they're just bad in.

 

00:32:34:20 - 00:32:37:04

So no, it's just like

 

00:32:37:16 - 00:32:39:22

I leverage the skills in poker

 

00:32:39:22 - 00:32:40:22

for really being able

 

00:32:40:22 - 00:32:43:07

to read body language

 

00:32:43:07 - 00:32:45:02

or body language very, very well.

 

00:32:45:02 - 00:32:45:20

And body

 

00:32:45:20 - 00:32:47:24

language does not change in regardless

 

00:32:48:08 - 00:32:49:08

of what color you are.

 

00:32:49:08 - 00:32:51:23

Culture of race. Right.

 

00:32:52:07 - 00:32:54:20

And is that what they were very telling

 

00:32:54:20 - 00:32:55:20

in all of their behaviors?

 

00:32:55:20 - 00:32:56:17

I can

 

00:32:56:21 - 00:32:58:10

I just sat there with my headphones on

 

00:32:58:10 - 00:32:59:09

because I couldn't talk to anybody

 

00:32:59:09 - 00:33:01:05

to just listen to music

 

00:33:01:05 - 00:33:02:09

the whole time I was playing.

 

00:33:02:09 - 00:33:04:12

But all of them had towels

 

00:33:04:12 - 00:33:05:12

and I was able to pick up on

 

00:33:05:12 - 00:33:06:12

in a matter of seconds

 

00:33:08:13 - 00:33:10:05

but again, I could have

 

00:33:10:05 - 00:33:10:24

easily been

 

00:33:10:24 - 00:33:13:01

in a foreign detention center somewhere.

 

00:33:13:01 - 00:33:14:08

Yeah.

 

00:33:14:09 - 00:33:15:21

We're thankful for that rap

 

00:33:15:21 - 00:33:16:03

sheet

 

00:33:16:03 - 00:33:18:22

for having you on show and not not

 

00:33:19:22 - 00:33:23:18

streaming live from the Korean

 

00:33:25:16 - 00:33:27:07

so we're going to move forward

 

00:33:27:07 - 00:33:28:06

a little bit.

 

00:33:28:06 - 00:33:29:17

And I appreciate you guys

 

00:33:29:17 - 00:33:31:00

openly sharing those

 

00:33:31:00 - 00:33:34:01

because one of the things that I'm I'm

 

00:33:34:04 - 00:33:35:20

trying to educate the community

 

00:33:35:20 - 00:33:36:16

is that

 

00:33:36:17 - 00:33:39:11

traveling while black is a thing, right?

 

00:33:40:01 - 00:33:41:18

It's not just a thing here.

 

00:33:41:18 - 00:33:44:07

And it's not always negative.

 

00:33:44:11 - 00:33:45:07

Right.

 

00:33:45:08 - 00:33:45:19

And I want

 

00:33:45:19 - 00:33:46:10

to ask you

 

00:33:46:10 - 00:33:48:15

about your travels in East Asia

 

00:33:48:15 - 00:33:50:24

or Southeast Asia. Right.

 

00:33:50:24 - 00:33:52:16

Do you feel as though that it's

 

00:33:52:16 - 00:33:54:01

out of curiosity

 

00:33:54:01 - 00:33:55:13

because there's like you said,

 

00:33:55:13 - 00:33:57:17

you were the only person there for miles

 

00:33:58:14 - 00:34:00:22

or and I want to

 

00:34:01:02 - 00:34:02:15

I want to bundle curiosity

 

00:34:02:15 - 00:34:04:06

anger, ignorance at the same time.

 

00:34:05:10 - 00:34:06:20

Or do you feel as though that

 

00:34:06:20 - 00:34:10:07

it was a dislike for black people?

 

00:34:10:16 - 00:34:11:19

Because I guess

 

00:34:11:19 - 00:34:14:03

is it a prejudice or is it a fascination?

 

00:34:14:10 - 00:34:15:16

Because in different countries

 

00:34:15:16 - 00:34:16:22

it can be different

 

00:34:16:22 - 00:34:18:05

and it can feel different

 

00:34:18:05 - 00:34:21:01

when it's actually the other.

 

00:34:21:05 - 00:34:21:21

Yes.

 

00:34:21:21 - 00:34:24:10

So if I use Southeast Asia specifically.

 

00:34:24:10 - 00:34:24:17

Right.

 

00:34:24:17 - 00:34:28:11

So it kind of all depends on the age

 

00:34:28:11 - 00:34:29:18

of the individuals, right?

 

00:34:29:18 - 00:34:33:11

So like older your traditional Koreans

 

00:34:33:24 - 00:34:36:13

may walk a little bit faster

 

00:34:36:13 - 00:34:37:19

or may not necessarily speak to you.

 

00:34:37:19 - 00:34:38:16

Whereas the

 

00:34:38:16 - 00:34:40:09

the younger generation,

 

00:34:40:09 - 00:34:41:12

they love our culture.

 

00:34:41:12 - 00:34:43:01

They love our music,

 

00:34:43:01 - 00:34:44:15

they love our and

 

00:34:44:15 - 00:34:45:24

the clothes that we wear, the sneakers

 

00:34:45:24 - 00:34:46:14

I wear, like

 

00:34:46:14 - 00:34:47:22

the sneaker culture

 

00:34:47:22 - 00:34:48:09

is probably

 

00:34:48:09 - 00:34:49:23

just as large in Southeast

 

00:34:49:23 - 00:34:52:15

Asia as it is in New York,

 

00:34:52:24 - 00:34:55:09

Chicago, L.A., Atlanta, right of it.

 

00:34:55:16 - 00:34:56:19

They're in line on sneaker

 

00:34:56:19 - 00:34:57:18

release stage, just like

 

00:34:57:18 - 00:34:59:10

we are in the U.S.

 

00:34:59:10 - 00:35:03:04

and but with the the younger folks,

 

00:35:03:09 - 00:35:05:07

you know, my age and younger,

 

00:35:05:07 - 00:35:07:15

I would say they were just more curious,

 

00:35:07:24 - 00:35:08:13

really. Just

 

00:35:09:17 - 00:35:10:23

out to be random, as I said,

 

00:35:10:23 - 00:35:12:15

randomly being in an IKEA,

 

00:35:12:15 - 00:35:14:17

nowhere near any military base

 

00:35:15:06 - 00:35:16:24

or just randomly on a playground

 

00:35:16:24 - 00:35:18:19

sitting watching a baseball game

 

00:35:18:19 - 00:35:20:12

outside of Seoul

 

00:35:20:12 - 00:35:21:19

or randomly

 

00:35:21:19 - 00:35:24:08

on one of these little small boats

 

00:35:24:08 - 00:35:25:16

in like

 

00:35:25:16 - 00:35:26:13

Thailand or

 

00:35:26:13 - 00:35:28:21

I just going into a floating market.

 

00:35:28:21 - 00:35:29:05

And there weren't

 

00:35:29:05 - 00:35:30:05

a lot of people there that look like.

 

00:35:30:05 - 00:35:31:13

Maybe they're just

 

00:35:31:24 - 00:35:33:12

taking the time to like really?

 

00:35:33:12 - 00:35:36:13

And if I'm going to introduce stand and

 

00:35:37:15 - 00:35:39:21

and Vietnam right like

 

00:35:39:21 - 00:35:41:05

although you and I can't speak

 

00:35:41:05 - 00:35:41:24

the same English, I'm

 

00:35:41:24 - 00:35:44:02

sitting there like asking questions.

 

00:35:44:02 - 00:35:45:08

I'm on some

 

00:35:45:10 - 00:35:46:21

translation apps trying to learn

 

00:35:46:21 - 00:35:47:11

how to speak to you

 

00:35:47:11 - 00:35:48:11

about the various foods,

 

00:35:48:11 - 00:35:49:19

fruits and things about violence.

 

00:35:49:19 - 00:35:52:04

Make it like a true experience,

 

00:35:52:04 - 00:35:53:01

and I'm getting out of it.

 

00:35:53:01 - 00:35:55:07

So I know that with the exception

 

00:35:55:08 - 00:35:57:09

of the few instances in Korea,

 

00:35:57:09 - 00:35:59:17

I've never had a bad lack of world

 

00:36:00:14 - 00:36:01:05

experience.

 

00:36:01:05 - 00:36:01:16

I guess it's

 

00:36:01:16 - 00:36:02:06

more something

 

00:36:02:06 - 00:36:04:13

curiosity around our music,

 

00:36:04:13 - 00:36:05:15

our culture and our our.

 

00:36:07:11 - 00:36:08:23

Nice, nice.

 

00:36:08:23 - 00:36:09:17

Appreciate that.

 

00:36:09:17 - 00:36:10:13

Because, I mean,

 

00:36:10:13 - 00:36:11:05

that's something

 

00:36:11:05 - 00:36:13:24

that gets easily misconceived

 

00:36:14:09 - 00:36:17:18

by, like you said, the curiosity.

 

00:36:17:22 - 00:36:18:17

I mean,

 

00:36:19:03 - 00:36:21:11

I've heard stories in past seasons

 

00:36:21:11 - 00:36:24:17

where there's like a

 

00:36:24:18 - 00:36:26:24

lack of consideration for personal space.

 

00:36:27:11 - 00:36:31:03

And so, you know that and for people

 

00:36:31:04 - 00:36:32:00

from New York,

 

00:36:32:00 - 00:36:32:14

way, way

 

00:36:32:14 - 00:36:35:15

he really reacted to that give us

 

00:36:36:15 - 00:36:38:18

what made you react so strongly to that?

 

00:36:38:18 - 00:36:39:00

Yeah.

 

00:36:39:00 - 00:36:39:08

So so

 

00:36:39:08 - 00:36:40:14

there is no personal space

 

00:36:40:14 - 00:36:42:19

in Korea at all and

 

00:36:42:19 - 00:36:45:04

like not even a little bit

 

00:36:45:07 - 00:36:47:12

if you can imagine a New York City

 

00:36:47:12 - 00:36:50:24

train packed and like 7:30 a.m.

 

00:36:50:24 - 00:36:52:22

on a Tuesday.

 

00:36:53:00 - 00:36:55:23

Imagine a Korean train

 

00:36:55:23 - 00:36:57:04

with more people on it

 

00:36:57:04 - 00:36:59:09

than can fit on a New York City subway.

 

00:36:59:09 - 00:37:01:17

So for example,

 

00:37:01:17 - 00:37:02:05

let's say you're

 

00:37:02:05 - 00:37:03:20

the one standing by the door

 

00:37:04:20 - 00:37:07:05

and a door opens and more people get on.

 

00:37:07:05 - 00:37:07:07

Well,

 

00:37:07:07 - 00:37:07:16

those people

 

00:37:07:16 - 00:37:10:10

that get on instead of facing at you,

 

00:37:10:17 - 00:37:11:16

they turn around

 

00:37:11:16 - 00:37:13:22

and just start taking steps backwards.

 

00:37:13:22 - 00:37:15:14

To push you back.

 

00:37:15:14 - 00:37:16:08

Oh, wow.

 

00:37:16:08 - 00:37:16:18

And there's

 

00:37:16:18 - 00:37:18:18

no conversation about it anymore.

 

00:37:19:18 - 00:37:21:09

So it's so it's not. No, excuse me.

 

00:37:21:09 - 00:37:22:19

It's just the

 

00:37:22:19 - 00:37:25:01

here is floor space on the train.

 

00:37:25:15 - 00:37:27:08

I based on my size

 

00:37:27:08 - 00:37:29:19

and somebody else's body on yours,

 

00:37:30:02 - 00:37:30:18

so some people

 

00:37:30:18 - 00:37:31:16

just want to just turn around

 

00:37:31:16 - 00:37:32:13

and just walk backwards.

 

00:37:32:13 - 00:37:35:01

Just push it. Wow.

 

00:37:35:14 - 00:37:36:14

So like

 

00:37:36:14 - 00:37:38:14

the first time I got on the train,

 

00:37:38:14 - 00:37:40:24

I got pushed from one door

 

00:37:40:24 - 00:37:43:14

all the way across to the other,

 

00:37:43:14 - 00:37:46:10

and I thought I was assaulted

 

00:37:47:07 - 00:37:49:00

and no one even asked my permission.

 

00:37:49:00 - 00:37:51:23

There was no dialog at all.

 

00:37:53:03 - 00:37:55:06

Oh, oh,

 

00:37:55:19 - 00:37:56:18

I appreciated that.

 

00:37:56:18 - 00:37:58:09

You think I even went on Facebook

 

00:37:58:09 - 00:38:00:06

lives that day?

 

00:38:00:06 - 00:38:03:04

I was like, looking proud.

 

00:38:03:04 - 00:38:04:08

Everybody needs to see this.

 

00:38:04:08 - 00:38:06:08

Although when I was on the train,

 

00:38:06:08 - 00:38:07:15

everybody was going to sleep

 

00:38:07:15 - 00:38:08:18

because it was

 

00:38:09:09 - 00:38:11:15

there 13 hours ahead

 

00:38:11:15 - 00:38:13:23

but it was.

 

00:38:13:23 - 00:38:16:02

It was challenging riding the train.

 

00:38:16:02 - 00:38:18:10

Mm mm. Really?

 

00:38:18:10 - 00:38:18:21

Well, it's

 

00:38:18:21 - 00:38:20:24

like people would just come up to you

 

00:38:21:11 - 00:38:22:16

just because you were different,

 

00:38:22:16 - 00:38:25:02

and, like, all your hair is similar.

 

00:38:25:02 - 00:38:25:10

Yeah.

 

00:38:25:10 - 00:38:27:18

Like, zero person.

 

00:38:27:18 - 00:38:29:19

Yeah, yeah.

 

00:38:32:09 - 00:38:33:11

Wow.

 

00:38:33:11 - 00:38:34:06

All right, so we're

 

00:38:34:06 - 00:38:34:15

got gonna

 

00:38:34:15 - 00:38:38:01

we got to fast forward this a little bit.

 

00:38:38:01 - 00:38:40:16

You know, we've, we've all been in

 

00:38:41:04 - 00:38:42:07

a unique situation

 

00:38:42:07 - 00:38:42:23

that for

 

00:38:42:23 - 00:38:43:13

with at least

 

00:38:43:13 - 00:38:44:12

within our lifetimes,

 

00:38:44:12 - 00:38:47:06

we've never really experienced before.

 

00:38:47:09 - 00:38:50:02

Right? This pandemic

 

00:38:50:02 - 00:38:50:15

you know, I'm

 

00:38:50:15 - 00:38:53:00

not going to make anybody relive

 

00:38:53:00 - 00:38:54:12

what they experienced.

 

00:38:54:12 - 00:38:55:20

But where you go,

 

00:38:55:20 - 00:38:57:01

where are you all today?

 

00:38:57:01 - 00:38:58:23

Like, how are you adjusting with

 

00:39:00:11 - 00:39:02:15

reduced or

 

00:39:02:15 - 00:39:05:02

other like lifted guidelines

 

00:39:05:18 - 00:39:08:09

masks the vaccines boosters

 

00:39:08:17 - 00:39:10:12

are you guys adjusting life

 

00:39:10:12 - 00:39:12:02

with and especially adding

 

00:39:12:02 - 00:39:13:14

travel to the mix? Right.

 

00:39:13:14 - 00:39:15:20

Are you guys adjusting to the new normal

 

00:39:16:20 - 00:39:18:08

post shutdown

 

00:39:18:08 - 00:39:20:04

oh, what is your new normal?

 

00:39:20:04 - 00:39:20:23

Because you guys had

 

00:39:20:23 - 00:39:24:13

you been together since about 2016

 

00:39:24:21 - 00:39:28:07

so you you had been dating prior

 

00:39:28:07 - 00:39:30:14

to the pandemic moving into it

 

00:39:30:14 - 00:39:32:17

and now we're like adjusting to whatever

 

00:39:32:24 - 00:39:33:14

we're saying

 

00:39:33:14 - 00:39:34:07

as the pandemic

 

00:39:34:07 - 00:39:36:14

is winding down or something like that.

 

00:39:36:20 - 00:39:39:14

How how can you explain your journey

 

00:39:39:14 - 00:39:41:03

as you went from,

 

00:39:41:03 - 00:39:42:05

okay, we're free to do

 

00:39:42:05 - 00:39:43:16

whatever we want to.

 

00:39:43:16 - 00:39:46:08

Oh, we locked down quarantine.

 

00:39:46:08 - 00:39:47:16

Got to stay safe.

 

00:39:47:16 - 00:39:49:16

So now like, okay,

 

00:39:49:16 - 00:39:51:03

we can move around a little bit.

 

00:39:51:03 - 00:39:53:00

What should we do

 

00:39:54:07 - 00:39:54:17

yeah.

 

00:39:54:17 - 00:39:56:17

So a lot of things.

 

00:39:57:21 - 00:39:59:00

So I definitely

 

00:39:59:00 - 00:39:59:19

people, I was like,

 

00:39:59:19 - 00:40:00:22

oh, did you get vaccinated

 

00:40:00:22 - 00:40:02:06

because you work at your school?

 

00:40:02:06 - 00:40:03:11

No, I get vaccinated.

 

00:40:03:11 - 00:40:04:16

You travel

 

00:40:05:15 - 00:40:06:17

seriously, right?

 

00:40:06:17 - 00:40:07:02

Because I was like,

 

00:40:07:02 - 00:40:10:03

I should not be confined to

 

00:40:11:15 - 00:40:13:08

New York or wherever

 

00:40:13:08 - 00:40:16:09

so I added actually called me up.

 

00:40:16:09 - 00:40:17:19

It was honestly less about work.

 

00:40:17:19 - 00:40:18:14

So that was one thing.

 

00:40:18:14 - 00:40:19:22

So definitely got vaccinated

 

00:40:19:22 - 00:40:22:06

so that I could resume travel and be free

 

00:40:22:06 - 00:40:23:15

because it's something

 

00:40:23:15 - 00:40:25:16

that I'm definitely passionate about.

 

00:40:25:16 - 00:40:28:07

New Normal.

 

00:40:28:22 - 00:40:29:08

It's something

 

00:40:29:08 - 00:40:31:16

I tell people all the time.

 

00:40:31:17 - 00:40:33:14

As an educator,

 

00:40:33:14 - 00:40:36:05

it's very stressful.

 

00:40:36:05 - 00:40:37:03

Our families,

 

00:40:37:03 - 00:40:38:18

our students, they're hurting, right?

 

00:40:38:18 - 00:40:39:08

The world,

 

00:40:39:08 - 00:40:40:20

a lot of people are really hurting.

 

00:40:40:20 - 00:40:43:01

They had their own stuff and traumas

 

00:40:43:07 - 00:40:45:09

and then the traumatic experience of

 

00:40:45:09 - 00:40:47:15

a pandemic on top of that.

 

00:40:48:16 - 00:40:50:16

So for a new normal, it's

 

00:40:51:21 - 00:40:53:07

trying to set some more boundaries

 

00:40:53:07 - 00:40:54:09

honestly,

 

00:40:54:09 - 00:40:55:19

just so that I can stay

 

00:40:55:19 - 00:40:56:24

a little bit sane,

 

00:40:56:24 - 00:40:57:17

which comes

 

00:40:57:17 - 00:40:57:23

you know,

 

00:40:57:23 - 00:40:59:11

we're talking about taking time off work.

 

00:40:59:11 - 00:41:01:18

I was a person who never took PTO days.

 

00:41:01:22 - 00:41:03:05

I would take PTO days

 

00:41:03:05 - 00:41:06:02

and every day in between now

 

00:41:06:02 - 00:41:07:16

to make sure that I'm mentally

 

00:41:07:16 - 00:41:09:15

well so that I can be well for others.

 

00:41:09:15 - 00:41:10:23

And so I would think that's definitely

 

00:41:10:23 - 00:41:12:06

like the biggest change out

 

00:41:12:06 - 00:41:14:17

before the pandemic

 

00:41:16:17 - 00:41:18:16

I feel like I waited around or

 

00:41:18:16 - 00:41:20:23

I waited to see things or do things,

 

00:41:21:09 - 00:41:22:21

even though I wanted to travel

 

00:41:22:21 - 00:41:23:16

and do different things.

 

00:41:23:16 - 00:41:24:22

It was kind of like our

 

00:41:24:22 - 00:41:25:21

a lot of our relationship

 

00:41:25:21 - 00:41:26:22

has been long distance.

 

00:41:26:22 - 00:41:28:08

His career has moved him

 

00:41:28:08 - 00:41:29:16

a bunch of different places,

 

00:41:29:16 - 00:41:31:04

and I feel like

 

00:41:31:04 - 00:41:32:21

I asked and waited for the opportunity

 

00:41:32:21 - 00:41:33:09

for me to, like,

 

00:41:33:09 - 00:41:34:07

maybe be wherever

 

00:41:34:07 - 00:41:36:00

he was or like

 

00:41:36:00 - 00:41:38:09

traveled somewhere because he was there

 

00:41:38:11 - 00:41:39:22

or I knew someone there.

 

00:41:39:22 - 00:41:41:05

Like he lived in Atlanta for a while

 

00:41:41:05 - 00:41:41:22

and one of my sorority

 

00:41:41:22 - 00:41:42:23

sisters lived there

 

00:41:42:23 - 00:41:43:18

and it was one of these

 

00:41:43:18 - 00:41:44:22

like inbetween periods,

 

00:41:44:22 - 00:41:45:14

like we were dating,

 

00:41:45:14 - 00:41:46:09

but like not really

 

00:41:46:09 - 00:41:47:17

was kind of like free.

 

00:41:47:17 - 00:41:48:21

And I was like, Oh, well, he's here.

 

00:41:48:21 - 00:41:50:22

I can go hang out with him, right? Yeah.

 

00:41:51:02 - 00:41:52:18

And it was more of like, wait,

 

00:41:52:18 - 00:41:56:06

ing kind of me and a little less action.

 

00:41:56:06 - 00:41:57:01

So for me,

 

00:41:57:01 - 00:41:58:03

the new normal is like

 

00:41:58:03 - 00:42:00:08

I am very much more active

 

00:42:00:22 - 00:42:04:12

in and making the choice and the terms

 

00:42:04:12 - 00:42:05:15

of like our relationship

 

00:42:05:15 - 00:42:06:12

and how we travel and

 

00:42:06:12 - 00:42:08:05

how we move in with my

 

00:42:10:08 - 00:42:11:02

okay.

 

00:42:11:16 - 00:42:13:23

You speak for our

 

00:42:14:22 - 00:42:15:12

that deep.

 

00:42:15:12 - 00:42:17:00

I just got deep.

 

00:42:17:01 - 00:42:19:09

He's got like I say now,

 

00:42:19:09 - 00:42:20:09

I don't know how

 

00:42:22:03 - 00:42:23:16

I mean, she made it difficult to follow,

 

00:42:23:16 - 00:42:25:15

but I believe in you, King. You got that?

 

00:42:25:15 - 00:42:27:02

You can do it.

 

00:42:27:02 - 00:42:29:10

You can do it. Yeah.

 

00:42:30:14 - 00:42:34:08

So for me, like, I got vaccinated, but.

 

00:42:34:08 - 00:42:35:19

Well, because of travel medicine,

 

00:42:35:19 - 00:42:37:00

because of work.

 

00:42:37:00 - 00:42:39:00

At the time, the job that I worked at

 

00:42:39:08 - 00:42:41:22

we had almost 4500 people

 

00:42:41:22 - 00:42:43:07

that I worked there.

 

00:42:43:14 - 00:42:45:17

And just with the nature of the job.

 

00:42:45:17 - 00:42:46:04

So at that time

 

00:42:46:04 - 00:42:49:01

I was working for Walmart or Walmart.com

 

00:42:49:02 - 00:42:49:24

so any time someone orders

 

00:42:49:24 - 00:42:51:08

something online,

 

00:42:51:08 - 00:42:52:16

you know, we got busy, right?

 

00:42:52:16 - 00:42:54:08

And with the world shut down,

 

00:42:54:08 - 00:42:56:13

everybody was trying to buy online orders

 

00:42:57:00 - 00:42:58:21

to pay for the ride, you know,

 

00:42:58:21 - 00:43:00:12

and my building was full of it

 

00:43:00:12 - 00:43:02:03

as far as the eye can see. So

 

00:43:03:14 - 00:43:05:13

I wanted to make sure that I stayed safe

 

00:43:05:13 - 00:43:06:15

so that

 

00:43:06:17 - 00:43:09:06

I was able to add impact to the economy.

 

00:43:09:08 - 00:43:11:04

All those people that are going online,

 

00:43:11:04 - 00:43:14:00

buying stuff from Walmart.com, you know,

 

00:43:14:00 - 00:43:14:20

one out of six

 

00:43:14:20 - 00:43:15:21

people would have got it

 

00:43:15:21 - 00:43:17:12

from my building.

 

00:43:17:21 - 00:43:19:07

So for me,

 

00:43:19:07 - 00:43:20:12

it was just important to say that,

 

00:43:20:12 - 00:43:20:19

you know,

 

00:43:20:19 - 00:43:22:05

I contribute

 

00:43:22:05 - 00:43:23:00

in some way, shape

 

00:43:23:00 - 00:43:23:14

or form

 

00:43:23:14 - 00:43:25:23

to like the world coming out of this

 

00:43:25:23 - 00:43:26:10

by being able

 

00:43:26:10 - 00:43:27:07

to provide people

 

00:43:27:07 - 00:43:28:22

with the things that they needed

 

00:43:28:22 - 00:43:30:14

for everyday life.

 

00:43:30:14 - 00:43:31:08

But then the flip side of

 

00:43:31:08 - 00:43:32:07

that is travel, right?

 

00:43:32:07 - 00:43:35:12

Like I am absolutely the person pre

 

00:43:36:05 - 00:43:37:05

COVID.

 

00:43:37:05 - 00:43:38:20

I would just go to a ticket counter house

 

00:43:38:20 - 00:43:39:14

for whatever

 

00:43:39:14 - 00:43:40:04

the next flight

 

00:43:40:04 - 00:43:42:03

that's leaving to go somewhere

 

00:43:42:03 - 00:43:43:10

and just go,

 

00:43:43:10 - 00:43:44:05

you know,

 

00:43:44:05 - 00:43:44:23

and that's why

 

00:43:44:23 - 00:43:46:08

I'm booking the Airbnb or something

 

00:43:46:08 - 00:43:46:24

when I land

 

00:43:46:24 - 00:43:48:14

because I didn't know where I was going

 

00:43:48:14 - 00:43:50:08

before I got to the airport.

 

00:43:50:08 - 00:43:51:08

Well, for me,

 

00:43:52:13 - 00:43:53:21

COVID really like,

 

00:43:53:21 - 00:43:54:06

you know,

 

00:43:54:06 - 00:43:55:02

hindered my ability

 

00:43:55:02 - 00:43:55:22

to just really get out

 

00:43:55:22 - 00:43:57:11

and explore the world.

 

00:43:57:11 - 00:43:58:23

I like to

 

00:43:59:18 - 00:44:00:12

ask you about that

 

00:44:00:12 - 00:44:02:13

ticket counter purchase as a TED,

 

00:44:03:00 - 00:44:04:05

because people don't realize

 

00:44:04:05 - 00:44:06:08

these pennies, these pennysaver trips

 

00:44:06:08 - 00:44:07:17

that you can just go to the airport

 

00:44:07:17 - 00:44:08:21

and grab tickets. Oh, really?

 

00:44:08:21 - 00:44:09:14

They sounds like

 

00:44:09:14 - 00:44:11:21

he knows who he's talking about.

 

00:44:11:21 - 00:44:13:07

But I'm going to go back

 

00:44:13:07 - 00:44:15:12

to something that you said in

 

00:44:15:21 - 00:44:17:24

your mental space, traveling

 

00:44:17:24 - 00:44:20:18

and being able to take your time off.

 

00:44:20:18 - 00:44:21:24

I think that pandemic gave

 

00:44:21:24 - 00:44:24:17

a lot of people perspective to like, yo,

 

00:44:25:00 - 00:44:26:24

I've been putting things off

 

00:44:26:24 - 00:44:29:19

like my mental health for long enough.

 

00:44:29:19 - 00:44:30:08

Like,

 

00:44:30:08 - 00:44:32:04

do you feel like travel helped

 

00:44:32:04 - 00:44:34:07

contribute towards that?

 

00:44:34:07 - 00:44:36:14

And if so, like

 

00:44:36:14 - 00:44:39:00

are you seeing a difference in how

 

00:44:39:02 - 00:44:39:20

when you travel

 

00:44:39:20 - 00:44:41:10

and come back, like you said,

 

00:44:41:10 - 00:44:42:14

you need to be the better

 

00:44:42:14 - 00:44:44:13

you for the kids and your staff.

 

00:44:44:13 - 00:44:45:18

Are they seeing a difference

 

00:44:45:18 - 00:44:47:09

now than you were before

 

00:44:47:09 - 00:44:48:21

because you weren't taking time off?

 

00:44:48:21 - 00:44:50:18

But absolutely,

 

00:44:50:18 - 00:44:52:13

I am a much happier person.

 

00:44:52:13 - 00:44:55:03

Like I said, if I can get to a beach

 

00:44:56:05 - 00:44:59:14

or get to some water or get some sun.

 

00:44:59:24 - 00:45:02:08

And so any time that I have been able

 

00:45:02:08 - 00:45:04:15

to step away from work

 

00:45:04:15 - 00:45:05:20

has made it easier.

 

00:45:05:20 - 00:45:06:19

Even though like

 

00:45:06:19 - 00:45:09:00

I take PTO day and stay in New York and

 

00:45:09:17 - 00:45:10:16

they still bother me.

 

00:45:10:16 - 00:45:11:16

It's something about like the

 

00:45:11:16 - 00:45:12:11

taking myself

 

00:45:12:11 - 00:45:13:07

somewhere else,

 

00:45:13:07 - 00:45:15:00

even if it's just like you

 

00:45:15:00 - 00:45:15:14

said,

 

00:45:15:14 - 00:45:16:19

if it's even if it's sometimes

 

00:45:16:19 - 00:45:17:15

just to my parents house

 

00:45:17:15 - 00:45:18:19

in western Pennsylvania,

 

00:45:18:19 - 00:45:21:03

it's that going there that is like,

 

00:45:21:16 - 00:45:23:10

okay, I'm free. I can clear my mind.

 

00:45:23:10 - 00:45:25:02

I can take some minutes to think.

 

00:45:25:02 - 00:45:25:21

And then I come back

 

00:45:25:21 - 00:45:27:02

and I'm a little bit more productive

 

00:45:27:02 - 00:45:28:22

or at least I'm a little nicer to them.

 

00:45:28:22 - 00:45:29:05

Yeah,

 

00:45:32:01 - 00:45:32:20

I mean, they would say

 

00:45:32:20 - 00:45:34:14

I'm a nice most of the time,

 

00:45:34:14 - 00:45:35:22

they really do like me.

 

00:45:35:22 - 00:45:38:05

But, you know, when I got to be stern,

 

00:45:38:05 - 00:45:39:24

then I have to be stern.

 

00:45:39:24 - 00:45:42:00

Okay. Yeah. All right.

 

00:45:42:24 - 00:45:44:04

So I really want

 

00:45:44:04 - 00:45:46:14

to go go forward with this

 

00:45:48:00 - 00:45:50:00

travel tips right?

 

00:45:50:01 - 00:45:52:20

As it relates to traveling,

 

00:45:52:20 - 00:45:55:13

whether it's individually or as a couple,

 

00:45:55:22 - 00:45:57:06

what are some tips

 

00:45:57:06 - 00:45:59:06

that you would give some

 

00:45:59:08 - 00:46:00:22

new know couples

 

00:46:00:22 - 00:46:02:22

or just individuals looking to get in

 

00:46:03:13 - 00:46:04:06

and to travel?

 

00:46:04:06 - 00:46:05:16

And yes, I'm

 

00:46:05:16 - 00:46:07:22

sorry I had to step away for a moment.

 

00:46:07:23 - 00:46:09:21

No, no, not a whole show.

 

00:46:09:21 - 00:46:11:05

So we got this.

 

00:46:11:05 - 00:46:13:16

Oh, no, it's couples golf show.

 

00:46:13:16 - 00:46:14:01

Okay.

 

00:46:14:01 - 00:46:14:24

So, you know,

 

00:46:14:24 - 00:46:15:14

okay, look,

 

00:46:15:14 - 00:46:17:06

I'm the boss lady on the street.

 

00:46:17:06 - 00:46:18:12

Yeah,

 

00:46:18:24 - 00:46:19:20

I was there.

 

00:46:19:20 - 00:46:21:23

I would definitely say just do it.

 

00:46:21:23 - 00:46:23:18

I think a lot of times

 

00:46:23:18 - 00:46:26:00

folks get hung up and like, the cost.

 

00:46:26:19 - 00:46:28:24

And to your point, I think

 

00:46:28:24 - 00:46:31:02

maybe in another episode

 

00:46:31:02 - 00:46:31:20

that I've watched,

 

00:46:31:20 - 00:46:33:06

I think someone said the same thing

 

00:46:33:06 - 00:46:35:21

on your show that even stateside, right.

 

00:46:35:21 - 00:46:36:24

Is travel.

 

00:46:36:24 - 00:46:38:14

And so just like

 

00:46:38:14 - 00:46:39:12

going right,

 

00:46:39:12 - 00:46:40:10

getting in your car,

 

00:46:40:10 - 00:46:42:20

if you have one, hopping on a train,

 

00:46:42:20 - 00:46:44:09

if you live like somewhere in New York,

 

00:46:44:09 - 00:46:44:17

you know,

 

00:46:44:17 - 00:46:45:06

you can

 

00:46:45:06 - 00:46:47:04

hop over on the Amtrak

 

00:46:47:04 - 00:46:49:06

and be in Philadelphia in 2 hours.

 

00:46:50:03 - 00:46:51:11

So that would be it.

 

00:46:51:11 - 00:46:52:19

Just do it.

 

00:46:52:19 - 00:46:53:19

That would yeah,

 

00:46:53:19 - 00:46:55:24

that would be my first tip. I suppose.

 

00:46:56:17 - 00:46:58:23

I would also say planning, right?

 

00:46:58:23 - 00:47:01:24

You can't just get up and go and be free.

 

00:47:01:24 - 00:47:04:01

Like, obviously things do cost money,

 

00:47:04:01 - 00:47:05:04

but some type of planning

 

00:47:05:04 - 00:47:06:19

and thinking about where it is

 

00:47:06:19 - 00:47:08:08

you want to go.

 

00:47:08:08 - 00:47:10:16

Is it cost effective?

 

00:47:10:16 - 00:47:12:03

Can you go to many places?

 

00:47:12:03 - 00:47:13:04

That was the best part

 

00:47:13:04 - 00:47:14:03

about going to Greece

 

00:47:14:03 - 00:47:15:17

is that there was that opportunity

 

00:47:15:17 - 00:47:16:14

for island hopping.

 

00:47:16:14 - 00:47:17:00

So yep,

 

00:47:17:00 - 00:47:19:07

we spent a few hundred bucks

 

00:47:19:07 - 00:47:20:23

getting to the island,

 

00:47:20:23 - 00:47:23:10

but then we could get on a boat

 

00:47:23:10 - 00:47:26:13

really quickly from Athens to Santorini

 

00:47:26:13 - 00:47:27:13

or make a no substantial

 

00:47:27:13 - 00:47:29:09

reading was like 30 bucks

 

00:47:29:09 - 00:47:31:19

and you could see more.

 

00:47:31:19 - 00:47:33:07

So what are those opportunities

 

00:47:33:07 - 00:47:35:06

that you can go to someplace?

 

00:47:35:06 - 00:47:36:15

We've been talking recently

 

00:47:36:15 - 00:47:37:19

about this couple's trip

 

00:47:37:19 - 00:47:39:00

that we might do with my best friend

 

00:47:39:00 - 00:47:40:14

and her boyfriend, and he's like, Oh,

 

00:47:40:14 - 00:47:42:00

we should go to Portugal

 

00:47:42:00 - 00:47:43:10

where we're at, right?

 

00:47:43:10 - 00:47:45:09

Because they're like pretty close by.

 

00:47:45:09 - 00:47:47:06

So I think those are some things

 

00:47:47:06 - 00:47:48:12

to consider.

 

00:47:48:16 - 00:47:49:19

Now, you mentioned

 

00:47:49:19 - 00:47:51:06

not being able to do things

 

00:47:51:06 - 00:47:52:22

last minute, and,

 

00:47:52:22 - 00:47:54:20

you know, our friend here

 

00:47:54:20 - 00:47:56:13

just walks up the counters and be like,

 

00:47:56:13 - 00:47:56:17

you know,

 

00:47:56:17 - 00:47:58:08

let me get your first flight out.

 

00:47:58:08 - 00:47:59:16

He used to I mean,

 

00:48:00:23 - 00:48:02:14

you know, that didn't change.

 

00:48:02:14 - 00:48:03:19

So

 

00:48:04:17 - 00:48:07:06

in the pandemic ish,

 

00:48:07:06 - 00:48:08:03

like towards

 

00:48:08:03 - 00:48:09:20

like when you could be vaccinated

 

00:48:09:20 - 00:48:11:03

and start to travel,

 

00:48:11:03 - 00:48:12:23

his passport had expired,

 

00:48:12:23 - 00:48:14:04

but he decided still

 

00:48:14:04 - 00:48:15:17

to surprise me with a trip.

 

00:48:15:17 - 00:48:16:17

And it was last minute.

 

00:48:16:17 - 00:48:17:18

And I went, I went.

 

00:48:17:18 - 00:48:19:17

It was my actual first solo trip.

 

00:48:19:17 - 00:48:21:06

I went to Jamaica.

 

00:48:21:06 - 00:48:23:05

It was really cool.

 

00:48:24:10 - 00:48:25:16

But yeah, so I can

 

00:48:25:16 - 00:48:27:13

I can spur of the moment a little bit.

 

00:48:27:13 - 00:48:29:21

I had I still had like two days notice.

 

00:48:29:21 - 00:48:31:19

So two or three days notice.

 

00:48:31:19 - 00:48:33:13

I can't just wake up and.

 

00:48:33:13 - 00:48:35:00

Yeah, we go

 

00:48:35:00 - 00:48:35:18

we were sitting

 

00:48:35:18 - 00:48:37:22

was sitting on my couch and I was like,

 

00:48:38:21 - 00:48:40:17

surprise, this weekend

 

00:48:40:17 - 00:48:42:10

you're going to Jamaica.

 

00:48:42:10 - 00:48:44:13

You're going like by yourself.

 

00:48:44:18 - 00:48:45:24

Yeah, it was great.

 

00:48:45:24 - 00:48:48:02

It was it was like right on time.

 

00:48:48:02 - 00:48:49:04

It was one of those moments

 

00:48:49:04 - 00:48:50:15

where a bunch of stuff

 

00:48:50:15 - 00:48:52:10

had happened at school

 

00:48:52:10 - 00:48:54:03

and one of my parents

 

00:48:54:03 - 00:48:56:09

who was really, really ill and kids

 

00:48:56:16 - 00:48:57:14

and it was like his

 

00:48:57:14 - 00:48:59:13

it was his primary parent.

 

00:48:59:13 - 00:49:00:15

And so I was like, oh, my gosh,

 

00:49:00:15 - 00:49:01:24

what's my poor child going to do?

 

00:49:01:24 - 00:49:02:06

Right?

 

00:49:02:06 - 00:49:04:13

Like, mom is really sick who can help?

 

00:49:04:13 - 00:49:05:22

So it came at a really good time

 

00:49:05:22 - 00:49:06:20

because I knew

 

00:49:06:20 - 00:49:08:02

mentally

 

00:49:08:02 - 00:49:09:11

I was exhausted at work

 

00:49:09:11 - 00:49:11:20

just from all the things

 

00:49:11:20 - 00:49:13:23

that had unfolded

 

00:49:13:23 - 00:49:16:04

throughout the 18 months or so.

 

00:49:16:14 - 00:49:17:19

So so

 

00:49:17:19 - 00:49:18:24

I want to kind of dove

 

00:49:18:24 - 00:49:19:20

in a little deeper.

 

00:49:19:20 - 00:49:22:07

And so buying tickets at the counter

 

00:49:22:17 - 00:49:24:21

sounds like you got a little inside scoop

 

00:49:25:02 - 00:49:26:04

how to get

 

00:49:26:04 - 00:49:27:23

at least reasonable price tickets

 

00:49:27:23 - 00:49:29:09

because you're buying tickets

 

00:49:29:09 - 00:49:30:09

at the counter

 

00:49:30:09 - 00:49:31:16

and then figuring out

 

00:49:31:16 - 00:49:35:06

RB either on the plane or when you land.

 

00:49:35:06 - 00:49:36:17

How is, how does that work?

 

00:49:36:17 - 00:49:37:10

Because, you know,

 

00:49:37:10 - 00:49:39:00

we're trying to figure that out, right?

 

00:49:40:08 - 00:49:40:19

We

 

00:49:42:17 - 00:49:44:07

so the best time survived.

 

00:49:44:07 - 00:49:46:18

Airport air tickets are on. I don't know.

 

00:49:46:18 - 00:49:48:07

I don't know why

 

00:49:48:09 - 00:49:50:02

Tuesday and Wednesday mornings

 

00:49:50:02 - 00:49:52:22

from 1 a.m. to 3 a.m.

 

00:49:52:22 - 00:49:54:05

during that weird hour, people

 

00:49:54:05 - 00:49:56:01

usually get up to use the restroom

 

00:49:56:01 - 00:49:56:15

on Tuesday

 

00:49:56:15 - 00:49:57:03

or Wednesday

 

00:49:57:03 - 00:49:59:09

is usually the best time to buy.

 

00:49:59:09 - 00:50:01:14

You'll oftentimes see flight tickets

 

00:50:01:14 - 00:50:03:19

that will be anywhere from 50

 

00:50:03:19 - 00:50:06:02

to like $125 difference

 

00:50:06:14 - 00:50:08:06

buying them that time of day

 

00:50:08:06 - 00:50:09:12

just because of

 

00:50:09:12 - 00:50:09:22

the sheer

 

00:50:09:22 - 00:50:12:24

traffic of people looking to buy tickets

 

00:50:12:24 - 00:50:15:20

online is a time period of time.

 

00:50:15:21 - 00:50:16:16

Okay.

 

00:50:16:22 - 00:50:18:09

The other piece

 

00:50:18:09 - 00:50:19:18

and it's not every airline

 

00:50:19:18 - 00:50:22:23

but a good majority of them are often

 

00:50:23:17 - 00:50:26:08

looking to still sell those tickets

 

00:50:26:21 - 00:50:27:14

because they can't

 

00:50:27:14 - 00:50:29:04

get all the seats filled.

 

00:50:29:04 - 00:50:30:04

In many instances

 

00:50:30:04 - 00:50:32:02

the prices went up being cheaper.

 

00:50:32:02 - 00:50:33:01

It was a destination

 

00:50:33:01 - 00:50:33:24

everybody's not trying

 

00:50:33:24 - 00:50:34:16

to frequent, right?

 

00:50:34:16 - 00:50:36:01

So if you go to the airport

 

00:50:36:01 - 00:50:37:19

ticket counter and say,

 

00:50:37:19 - 00:50:41:08

Oh, I'm trying to go to Las Vegas, right?

 

00:50:41:15 - 00:50:44:01

Everybody is trying to go to Las Vegas,

 

00:50:44:01 - 00:50:45:10

whereas they're saying, Hey,

 

00:50:45:10 - 00:50:47:00

can I get your

 

00:50:47:00 - 00:50:49:11

the next flight out to Omaha, Nebraska,

 

00:50:49:11 - 00:50:50:10

Omaha, Nebraska,

 

00:50:50:10 - 00:50:51:09

is actually beautiful

 

00:50:51:09 - 00:50:53:16

with some phenomenal scene.

 

00:50:53:16 - 00:50:55:01

How many people are going to Omaha

 

00:50:55:01 - 00:50:56:23

once you actually live in Omaha?

 

00:50:56:23 - 00:50:57:04

Right.

 

00:50:57:04 - 00:50:59:00

So for me to get a last minute flight,

 

00:50:59:00 - 00:51:00:12

I want to go to Omaha.

 

00:51:00:12 - 00:51:02:03

Is going to be a lot cheaper than I would

 

00:51:02:03 - 00:51:03:23

if I would have done it online.

 

00:51:03:23 - 00:51:05:11

Is it so many seats filled?

 

00:51:06:17 - 00:51:07:04

Nice.

 

00:51:07:04 - 00:51:07:22

Nice. Yeah.

 

00:51:07:22 - 00:51:09:01

I hear this

 

00:51:09:01 - 00:51:10:09

like, don't be

 

00:51:10:09 - 00:51:13:05

you ain't got to go to Las Vegas.

 

00:51:13:05 - 00:51:15:20

You know, Omaha, Nebraska,

 

00:51:15:20 - 00:51:17:03

get some good steaks

 

00:51:17:03 - 00:51:19:14

and just enjoy yourself.

 

00:51:19:14 - 00:51:20:06

That's what's up.

 

00:51:20:06 - 00:51:22:03

So can you tell us

 

00:51:22:03 - 00:51:23:08

if y'all on social media,

 

00:51:23:08 - 00:51:25:18

where can people find you or y'all like,

 

00:51:25:18 - 00:51:26:17

come on lockdown.

 

00:51:26:17 - 00:51:27:24

I'm private.

 

00:51:29:01 - 00:51:30:17

Oh, so it goes a little bit

 

00:51:30:17 - 00:51:31:07

back and forth.

 

00:51:31:07 - 00:51:33:23

I mean, I'm at Gail Montney, but

 

00:51:35:02 - 00:51:37:24

you won't see much because I like

 

00:51:37:24 - 00:51:39:18

that may or may I posted

 

00:51:39:18 - 00:51:42:05

and if I didn't happen five years later,

 

00:51:42:05 - 00:51:42:20

maybe be like,

 

00:51:42:20 - 00:51:44:06

was she in Greece this summer?

 

00:51:44:06 - 00:51:46:09

And she was there like five years ago.

 

00:51:46:09 - 00:51:47:06

Okay,

 

00:51:47:21 - 00:51:48:21

I did the same thing

 

00:51:48:21 - 00:51:50:09

and do the same thing.

 

00:51:50:09 - 00:51:52:08

Well, I definitely we both

 

00:51:52:08 - 00:51:54:06

thank you for doing this

 

00:51:54:06 - 00:51:56:17

and we appreciate you sharing

 

00:51:56:17 - 00:51:57:16

your experience.

 

00:51:58:23 - 00:52:00:07

Anything, anything you

 

00:52:00:07 - 00:52:02:24

want to leave the the viewers with

 

00:52:03:22 - 00:52:04:17

travel related?

 

00:52:04:17 - 00:52:05:09

Oh, actually,

 

00:52:05:09 - 00:52:07:15

I have one thing to step back to.

 

00:52:07:15 - 00:52:09:15

You mentioned you have a son, right?

 

00:52:10:07 - 00:52:12:10

One of the things that a lot of people

 

00:52:12:10 - 00:52:15:12

don't really like, younger people

 

00:52:15:12 - 00:52:17:00

as they grow don't really understand

 

00:52:17:00 - 00:52:18:14

how do you travel with children?

 

00:52:18:14 - 00:52:22:08

So I know you guys had some baller trips.

 

00:52:22:15 - 00:52:23:19

I've seen them.

 

00:52:23:19 - 00:52:25:10

So how does traveling

 

00:52:25:10 - 00:52:26:12

with the young one look?

 

00:52:26:12 - 00:52:28:07

Because my man was

 

00:52:28:07 - 00:52:30:08

balling on these trips.

 

00:52:30:08 - 00:52:32:21

He was so that was actually his first.

 

00:52:32:21 - 00:52:34:10

That was actually I'll let him answer

 

00:52:34:10 - 00:52:35:22

because he also had some.

 

00:52:35:22 - 00:52:38:00

But I

 

00:52:38:00 - 00:52:40:19

took Langston to he's been several plays

 

00:52:40:19 - 00:52:42:06

with in United States, like California.

 

00:52:42:06 - 00:52:44:18

We've been to San Diego

 

00:52:45:21 - 00:52:47:06

a bunch of different places,

 

00:52:47:06 - 00:52:48:02

more places than I think

 

00:52:48:02 - 00:52:49:00

I was at his age.

 

00:52:49:00 - 00:52:51:08

But I recently took him to Jamaica,

 

00:52:51:08 - 00:52:52:18

which would be the second place

 

00:52:52:18 - 00:52:53:00

he's been.

 

00:52:53:00 - 00:52:54:07

He went to, like out of the country.

 

00:52:54:07 - 00:52:56:11

He went to Aruba for my cousin's wedding,

 

00:52:56:11 - 00:52:58:01

and then we took him to Jamaica.

 

00:52:58:01 - 00:53:00:14

He had a really good time. I think

 

00:53:02:06 - 00:53:04:01

the way to travel is

 

00:53:04:01 - 00:53:05:23

to with the young

 

00:53:05:23 - 00:53:08:03

child is to kind of like over plan.

 

00:53:08:03 - 00:53:09:19

So it was my first time

 

00:53:09:19 - 00:53:11:18

taking a snack suitcase.

 

00:53:11:18 - 00:53:12:13

That is it.

 

00:53:12:13 - 00:53:13:01

It

 

00:53:14:24 - 00:53:16:08

a snack suitcase.

 

00:53:16:08 - 00:53:16:13

And I

 

00:53:16:13 - 00:53:17:16

will I swear to you,

 

00:53:17:16 - 00:53:18:19

I will never travel again

 

00:53:18:19 - 00:53:20:08

without a snack suitcase.

 

00:53:20:08 - 00:53:22:11

We just need that for me.

 

00:53:22:11 - 00:53:25:09

I know that's a great place to get to me

 

00:53:25:18 - 00:53:27:00

with a snack suitcase.

 

00:53:27:00 - 00:53:29:19

I put chips and candy,

 

00:53:29:19 - 00:53:30:21

all the things that I like

 

00:53:30:21 - 00:53:32:12

because I like to snack in the afternoon

 

00:53:32:12 - 00:53:33:05

or in the evening.

 

00:53:33:05 - 00:53:35:03

And sometimes the things you really like

 

00:53:35:03 - 00:53:35:13

are not there.

 

00:53:35:13 - 00:53:36:21

So snack, suitcase,

 

00:53:36:21 - 00:53:37:07

fill it up

 

00:53:37:07 - 00:53:39:09

with all the things that you enjoy.

 

00:53:39:09 - 00:53:40:08

But that's what I did for him

 

00:53:40:08 - 00:53:41:15

because he's a super picky eater,

 

00:53:41:15 - 00:53:42:15

so I know that he'll want

 

00:53:42:15 - 00:53:43:21

cereal in the morning.

 

00:53:43:21 - 00:53:44:24

He'll want certain snacks,

 

00:53:44:24 - 00:53:45:19

and I know

 

00:53:45:19 - 00:53:47:15

that they're not accessible everywhere,

 

00:53:47:15 - 00:53:49:04

nor am I going to go searching high

 

00:53:49:04 - 00:53:51:06

and low for those goldfish that he likes.

 

00:53:51:06 - 00:53:52:01

That's nonsense.

 

00:53:52:01 - 00:53:53:22

But I will bring them

 

00:53:53:22 - 00:53:56:08

so as they definitely play in that way.

 

00:53:56:17 - 00:53:58:13

We looked for places

 

00:53:58:13 - 00:53:59:12

that were kid friendly,

 

00:53:59:12 - 00:54:01:07

so this place had a pool

 

00:54:01:07 - 00:54:04:10

and a beach close by that we can walk to.

 

00:54:05:07 - 00:54:05:21

I check out

 

00:54:05:21 - 00:54:07:07

food options,

 

00:54:07:07 - 00:54:08:12

seeing if there are food items

 

00:54:08:12 - 00:54:09:20

that he would like,

 

00:54:09:20 - 00:54:14:01

but he honestly is the sweetest.

 

00:54:14:20 - 00:54:16:07

I mean, he's a little bit of me,

 

00:54:16:07 - 00:54:17:21

but he is the sweetest

 

00:54:17:21 - 00:54:19:10

and most agreeable child.

 

00:54:19:10 - 00:54:20:18

And so on an airplane,

 

00:54:20:18 - 00:54:21:21

if he has some,

 

00:54:21:21 - 00:54:22:06

you know,

 

00:54:22:06 - 00:54:24:05

some earphones, a tablet

 

00:54:24:05 - 00:54:26:09

or something to watch, he sleeps a lot.

 

00:54:26:09 - 00:54:27:07

He'll color.

 

00:54:27:07 - 00:54:28:24

So he's pretty easygoing.

 

00:54:28:24 - 00:54:32:02

Honestly, the snack suitcase was the hit

 

00:54:32:07 - 00:54:33:03

because he's like, Mom,

 

00:54:33:03 - 00:54:34:10

this was the best idea ever.

 

00:54:34:10 - 00:54:35:11

We should bring snacks everywhere.

 

00:54:35:11 - 00:54:37:16

I was like, Don't worry, Langston,

 

00:54:37:16 - 00:54:38:06

we will.

 

00:54:38:06 - 00:54:40:24

And so we went to sleep as adults.

 

00:54:41:04 - 00:54:42:08

I was like, hey, everybody,

 

00:54:42:08 - 00:54:44:02

I've got a list for the snack suitcase.

 

00:54:44:02 - 00:54:46:06

What goes inside the night?

 

00:54:46:06 - 00:54:47:16

It was so clutch,

 

00:54:47:16 - 00:54:48:23

Jessica, like in bed eating

 

00:54:48:23 - 00:54:49:19

Pringles was like,

 

00:54:49:19 - 00:54:52:04

Why have I ever traveled without a snack?

 

00:54:52:04 - 00:54:53:02

Suitcase before?

 

00:54:53:02 - 00:54:54:14

I don't know right now.

 

00:54:54:14 - 00:54:56:04

How do we think of that?

 

00:54:56:04 - 00:54:58:04

Because you don't have a child,

 

00:54:58:07 - 00:55:00:00

but now, you know, snack.

 

00:55:01:07 - 00:55:01:19

All right.

 

00:55:01:19 - 00:55:03:20

And yourself, sir.

 

00:55:03:23 - 00:55:06:03

So my first trip

 

00:55:06:03 - 00:55:07:13

outside of the country

 

00:55:07:13 - 00:55:09:24

with my son was to Tokyo,

 

00:55:09:24 - 00:55:11:24

and then it's it'll be 17

 

00:55:11:24 - 00:55:13:09

and a couple of days,

 

00:55:13:09 - 00:55:15:18

I think it was for his spring break

 

00:55:15:18 - 00:55:17:16

when he was like 11 or 12.

 

00:55:17:16 - 00:55:18:11

Hmm.

 

00:55:18:11 - 00:55:20:01

He's always love like,

 

00:55:20:01 - 00:55:20:24

you know, anime

 

00:55:20:24 - 00:55:22:15

and things of that nature.

 

00:55:22:15 - 00:55:24:07

But for,

 

00:55:24:07 - 00:55:25:22

for traveling with a child similar

 

00:55:25:22 - 00:55:27:21

to what Leanna just called out,

 

00:55:27:21 - 00:55:29:18

like, all the lion is super spontaneous.

 

00:55:29:18 - 00:55:30:24

And I'll just get up and go like,

 

00:55:30:24 - 00:55:32:11

you can not do that.

 

00:55:32:11 - 00:55:33:22

Abroad with a chance.

 

00:55:33:22 - 00:55:36:03

And we had itineraries.

 

00:55:36:03 - 00:55:37:04

We had agendas.

 

00:55:37:04 - 00:55:38:22

We had to be in places

 

00:55:38:22 - 00:55:41:00

and particular times of the day.

 

00:55:41:00 - 00:55:42:23

The only difference is, is like

 

00:55:42:23 - 00:55:45:13

he is a very picky eater.

 

00:55:45:13 - 00:55:47:05

So whereas I would try anything

 

00:55:47:05 - 00:55:49:13

that I see being prepared on the street,

 

00:55:50:02 - 00:55:52:02

you know, I enjoy that learning

 

00:55:52:02 - 00:55:53:22

you know, the dominant Domino's

 

00:55:53:22 - 00:55:56:05

Pizza menu in Japanese

 

00:55:57:18 - 00:55:58:15

every night

 

00:55:58:15 - 00:56:00:06

before we went to bed,

 

00:56:00:06 - 00:56:02:02

we would have pizza from Domino's

 

00:56:02:02 - 00:56:02:20

Pizza and Wings.

 

00:56:02:20 - 00:56:03:23

We don't

 

00:56:04:10 - 00:56:05:12

we'd be randomly walking

 

00:56:05:12 - 00:56:06:18

around downtown Tokyo,

 

00:56:06:18 - 00:56:08:20

and then we find ourselves in line

 

00:56:08:20 - 00:56:09:24

in, you know,

 

00:56:09:24 - 00:56:11:21

a number two value meal at McDonald's.

 

00:56:11:21 - 00:56:12:05

Right?

 

00:56:13:14 - 00:56:14:01

So he would

 

00:56:14:01 - 00:56:15:24

we would get out and explore with

 

00:56:15:24 - 00:56:17:02

he still wanted to revert back

 

00:56:17:02 - 00:56:19:04

to the things that he was that he knew.

 

00:56:20:08 - 00:56:23:01

So yeah, I would say

 

00:56:23:15 - 00:56:25:14

definitely planning in advance

 

00:56:25:14 - 00:56:26:13

and looking to create

 

00:56:26:13 - 00:56:28:03

some sort of schedule

 

00:56:28:03 - 00:56:30:17

for the child is important.

 

00:56:30:17 - 00:56:31:15

And

 

00:56:32:10 - 00:56:33:23

and then

 

00:56:34:07 - 00:56:35:18

outside of just snacks, like,

 

00:56:35:18 - 00:56:36:16

you know, traveling with a child,

 

00:56:36:16 - 00:56:37:10

you just got to make sure

 

00:56:37:10 - 00:56:38:04

that they're always like

 

00:56:38:04 - 00:56:39:24

staying hydrated,

 

00:56:39:24 - 00:56:41:20

especially depending on the weather.

 

00:56:41:20 - 00:56:43:04

Make sure that, you know,

 

00:56:43:04 - 00:56:44:00

there are accessible

 

00:56:44:00 - 00:56:46:07

bathrooms in places because,

 

00:56:46:07 - 00:56:46:20

you know,

 

00:56:46:20 - 00:56:48:08

we'll pull over on the side of the road.

 

00:56:48:08 - 00:56:49:11

They easy in the US.

 

00:56:49:11 - 00:56:50:09

But man,

 

00:56:50:09 - 00:56:51:10

that's going to be able to do that

 

00:56:51:10 - 00:56:53:21

or be accepted, try and do that abroad.

 

00:56:53:21 - 00:56:55:05

You might get arrested or get a ticket

 

00:56:55:05 - 00:56:58:19

so you oh well thank you

 

00:56:58:19 - 00:57:00:13

both for once again

 

00:57:00:13 - 00:57:02:07

jumping on here and sharing

 

00:57:03:15 - 00:57:04:09

this is though

 

00:57:04:09 - 00:57:04:22

I really

 

00:57:04:22 - 00:57:05:19

appreciate you guys

 

00:57:05:19 - 00:57:07:03

jumping on and sharing

 

00:57:07:03 - 00:57:08:19

and like I said, you guys did the first.

 

00:57:08:19 - 00:57:09:14

So yeah,

 

00:57:09:14 - 00:57:13:16

I set the bar pretty hard for every now.

 

00:57:13:16 - 00:57:14:19

You know, take a drink

 

00:57:14:19 - 00:57:16:22

if you're in danger after this episode.

 

00:57:18:15 - 00:57:20:03

In danger.

 

00:57:20:03 - 00:57:22:06

These are the saved is not in danger.

 

00:57:22:06 - 00:57:24:10

Well, you take your job

 

00:57:26:18 - 00:57:28:09

away.

 

00:57:28:14 - 00:57:29:07

All right.

 

00:57:29:07 - 00:57:30:21

Well, thank you very much.

 

00:57:30:21 - 00:57:32:04

And happy travel.