If you are wondering what's it's like to travel with young children and want to know what it takes to get a baby's passport created. The McKens answers those questions and more. They share their secret to traveling with young children. The McKens also share with us their love story from the beginning to now. Let's hear what the McKens have to say.
If you are wondering what's it's like to travel with young children and want to know what it takes to get a baby's passport created. The McKens answers those questions and more. They share their secret to traveling with young children. The McKens also share with us their love story from the beginning to now. Let's hear what the McKens have to say.
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So we were doing like I think we went somewhere with her
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and then we came back to global entry and then it was like she needs
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global entry as well. She begins in Mexico.
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So we our children have passport, which is another joke too,
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because like just getting the child a passport is like the biggest joke ever.
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So it is like holding the baby up and just like
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kind of the funniest thing ever.
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So we want to see we had a global entry and I remember this
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because when we got to Sinai, our oldest daughter
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Global entry because she was sleeping,
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she has a globe entry is a picture of her knocked out.
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But there's so many.
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A welcome to travel
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Tuesday Happy Hour,
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where he interviewed dope
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people doing dope things
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from around the world.
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And then as you can see,
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I have a special co-host this season,
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My Queen.
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Tell them who you are, please.
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I'm Jackie.
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Okay. Okay.
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Jackie, would you do Jackie?
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Oh, I do quite a few things.
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Okay, let's step
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We go along.
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Today might be a long. Yes.
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I guess my biggest job
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is being his fiancee.
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Okay, that's.
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That's the best job
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I think this is hard work.
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This is hard work.
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I'll make it look good.
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He has really
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now nothing to talk about.
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Hard at work.
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We got two of the hardest working people
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on this screen right now, right?
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We got a doctor, and doctor
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can now tell us you are on what you do.
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You want to start.
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It is okay.
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My name is Alade McKen
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I am a Higher
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Education professional
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at a higher education institution
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where I work closely
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with students, faculty and staff.
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keep it real dry plain and simple
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My name is Dr.
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Sudhi Mcken, and I'm an OBGYN
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Nice. Nice.
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So how did you tell me?
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Meet
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Yeah,
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well, we met in
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2003 2004
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and I met
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Sudhi here at Cornell University
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where she where she went to undergrad
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and I went to undergrad in Binghamton.
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And during that time, I was just
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traveling a lot, going from
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place to place.
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You party,
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you know, and I met her in her dorm room.
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Yes.
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I had just crossed
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into the most innovative
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sorority inc and, you know,
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a lot is in America.
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And we were getting ready
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to go to the party
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and I was sitting in the room
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and it was like
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having has like brothers
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running around the dorm.
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And they came
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you came in my room and I was like,
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there's
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and that's how we met.
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Wow.
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There's a man in my room.
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And now family
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lead more steps in me
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and made the first mobile back.
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What? What happened?
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You know,
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I'm reformed now, so I used be based
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in Detroit,
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where I've lived here with the mouth.
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So I was just,
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you know, talking crap and,
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you know, just,
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you know, just talking garbage
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and just inviting myself,
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you know, into the space, you know?
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And that's kind of how I move.
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I'm like, just walk in the spaces
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and act like I own it.
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So that's what I have now.
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It's kind of a long story,
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because at first we were just friends.
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And because of my proposal,
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I don't date any omegas.
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They're crazies.
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I was like, I can't talk to you.
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So, you know,
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we were friends, and we did other people,
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and then we reconnected.
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And so it was like over a series of years
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together.
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Yeah.
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But I think
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what is important about the story
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is that she was continuously in school
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and I went back home to work.
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So our relationship, whatever
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it was at that time, you know,
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the time was long distance
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for a long time.
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And then when she finally
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finished school,
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I left to go pursue my Ph.D.
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and I left the state.
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So we've pretty much been long distance
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for a very, very long time.
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You know,
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whether it be
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friendship relationship,
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you know, fooling around,
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you know,
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and even through engagement and
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then marriage.
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Do you think that helped strengthen
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your bond?
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Because you mentioned friendship
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a couple of times, right?
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Did the friendship
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become your basis for your relationship?
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Yeah, I would definitely say yes,
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especially because
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when you're not seeing a person
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every single day,
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you really have to talk to them a lot.
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And that kind of takes away
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the physical aspect of it,
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and it becomes more about
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getting to know the person.
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So I would definitely say yes,
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and I just made it.
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I feel like the years went by faster
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because whenever you would reunite
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it was just so much sweeter
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because you're like, Oh my gosh.
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Whereas, you know,
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when you see the person day
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in and day out, you know,
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you can really kind of
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take them for granted
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and so I think it was it
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definitely helps strengthen
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our relationship.
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You know, I would agree and say the same.
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I think a part of it was just
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the mere fact that,
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you know,
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we went through so many different things
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in our lives separately.
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And, you know, even if we weren't
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like really serious
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with each other,
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really engage in conversations,
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like I think life
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moments had us get closer together.
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So we was very supportive of each other
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when we went through
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a series of different things.
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You know,
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being one of my close
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friends passed in a way.
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She was there,
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she got injured
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and was like in a wheelchair.
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You know,
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it was like
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there was just so many different stories
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that we
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that we share that
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we were there to support each other,
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so to say the least.
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We were shooting in the gym, you know,
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with each other for real.
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So now that's super dope.
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I appreciate you
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bringing the drink tonight.
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It works. It works.
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I really enjoy
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So what?
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So a lot of you
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spoke about traveling a lot.
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What triggered
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you wanting to travel as much as you did?
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Yeah.
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So I wasn't a real big traveler.
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I could.
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And I always had,
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you know, inspirations to travel
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you know,
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just a local guy, you know,
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not even a neighborhood type.
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You know, friends never travel,
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never had any people
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who was just like traveling folks.
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But funny enough, my mother, she was
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she traveled very young,
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you know, from like the age of 14.
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She went to
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Ghana, was like her first trip
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and went
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and embedded herself with the Akon people
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and got initiated with the kind of tribe
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in Ghana
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and then Senegal and
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and then Nigeria and so on and so forth.
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And it was more so a cultural background
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that she gained a lot of
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knowledge and wisdom
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and understanding and identity
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in terms of her cultural
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experiences through travel.
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And then my sister's later down a line
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being dances, you know, and dance
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troupes, etc., traveled to Senegal, etc.
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But I never looked at them
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and never thought about them
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as someone who was right
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there, who can
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give me the tools to travel.
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And I was just like
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looking at my friends.
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So for me, the beginning of traveling was
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really just,
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you know, kind of leaving the state.
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Then there on was more so
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I guess my most meaningful trip
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was going to Kenya.
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And I went I was close with the group
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and in Brooklyn,
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you know,
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I was living in Brooklyn at the time.
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And they decided to cancel the trip
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because it was civil unrest in Kenya.
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And I was like, Why?
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And I was kind of gathering the troops up
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and my friends and everyone was like,
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I'm not going because they were scared.
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And my friend and I
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close friend Bernard,
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who was
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also my frat brother,
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he was like, Yo, let's just go.
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We'll figure it out.
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And we went
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and figured it out
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and kind of connected with some folks.
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We knew some folks,
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and it was just like real organic.
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And we did.
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We had the most amazing trip,
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like on the president's ground.
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We did so much.
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We were in the legal stuff.
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It was just like
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we it was like dangerous stuff.
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We were doing that.
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As I look back at it,
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we were just cracking and it was just
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we was just so excited
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to, you know, kids, the continent.
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You know,
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I think
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most black folks is just,
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you know, inspirations
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just to get back home. Right.
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So that was our journey. And we
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did like a Go Find Me and all
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this other stuff.
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And people supported
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us, supported our trip, and we went
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nice, nice and clean, which was
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I mean, I'm
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not sure
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there's a candle
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to be held next to that experience.
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You know,
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I always travel I
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my parents in my family
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from Sierra Leone.
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So we always went back home
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my dad sisters lived in London.
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My so travel to me was like
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I grew up doing it
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and I didn't realize that that wasn't my
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children didn't have passports.
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Like when I went to college,
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I met people that didn't have passports.
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No passport.
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Like that was weird to me
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because that's not how we grew up.
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And I don't know.
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I also I'm very big into astrology,
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so I'm a Sagittarius
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and we love to travel.
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It's like
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just put me on a plane anywhere.
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And so and school
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you know, I always wanted to do
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a study abroad, but
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because I was pre-med, I could.
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And so then
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when I went to medical school,
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I went and did work in India
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and, and Ghana,
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and I lived there for like a month
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each location.
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And I just loved it.
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Like any new experience, like put me,
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the airport is like my most
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amazing place to be
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because it's so many possibilities.
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Like people everywhere.
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I'm like, I wonder where they're going,
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what they're going to do.
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And so that was,
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I mean, it's like and me traveling,
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I guess when we started dating,
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I'm like, well, where are we going?
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Like, let's go here. Like, let's go.
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This place is so that place.
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And so I think that kind of also like,
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yeah, continue to spark a lot
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because I'm like,
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I don't stay in the United States. So
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know What was your first trip?
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What was your first trip together?
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Oh, my God, I remember that.
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Was it Belize?
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No,
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international.
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Either domestic or years together.
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Like, you guys were like, you know what?
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We're just not going
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I don't know what we're going to.
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And we know you didn't
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want to be a part of your relationship.
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Long distance, so not like a visit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You're you're strong
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respective places
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where but your first trip together.
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Oh, my God.
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I really don't remember
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why we decided to go together.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, no, not
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because we were visiting each other so.
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Oh, I mean, was it like Colorado?
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No, no,
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I think that was later down the line,
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but now I don't even know, really.
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Try to catch up to y'all now.
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Like, I think it was good.
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I think it was Belize, I think.
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Yeah, because if I could sit here
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and say
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that we actually like,
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planned to go somewhere together
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and, like,
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she had experience
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and it wasn't like someone was waiting
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or something like that.
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Right?
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Or something that was pulling us there.
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I think it would have to say
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I would say things that I can remember.
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We will use Belize because we shared
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an experience together.
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It wasn't like, I'm
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coming, you know,
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your friend is getting married
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or my friends getting married.
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I mean, there was a lot of that
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to me, like a lot of their lives
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and weddings.
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Mexico, like you know, a lot of them,
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I think
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for like just a trip for the two of us.
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I really I think it was Belize, I think.
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Yeah, I would say I would say
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that was because I was in Spain.
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Yeah, me too.
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Ray was I think he was
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this was quite the user residence.
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But yeah, we we we decided to go.
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The reason why I remember this trip
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as a trip
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that was just more like this, us,
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because
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we were
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just doing like
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real random
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cliche like couples stuff
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like riding bikes together.
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It seemed like, you know what I'm saying?
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Hey, just,
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just doing stuff like,
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you know, like, yeah,
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we're going to go and,
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you know,
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go to
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the waterfall and cross over, though.
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That was somewhere else.
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No.
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Yeah, no, we did ride bikes in the water.
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We stayed in mostly think of even safe
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I think ocean but Belize
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I believe that was
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Belize was that final was really
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I went on the trip
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well you know the trips
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yeah she's
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very meticulous type A personality
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so that's good you know
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since you knows I can go back.
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No, no that's the one thing I know people
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somebody asked them to go like also
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does she pack your bag? He's like,
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oh my bags.
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He is very particular about his clothing.
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So I could never go back in my no,
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he would never be pleased
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with whatever effectively.
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What is this?
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I don't wear this together.
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So he packs the bag,
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but then I do everything else.
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No, I mean,
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and I think there's a reason why
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I I'm a B give it a voucher.
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So the reason why I think, you know,
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I would love to do things,
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but at the time, you know,
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I am the money.
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So I love planning stuff
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and carrying things and, and that.
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And for me, I just feel like
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if I don't have complete control right
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then I'm gonna just let go.
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And I'm and that's, that's
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why I'm a laid back kind of guy, too.
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But she's very good at planning and,
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you know, figuring it out.
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Ask me a couple of questions.
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I'm like, Yeah, sure, whatever we call.
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And then we just ride his ride away.
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She's a really good editor.
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Okay, so do you.
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So do you guys have, like,
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the most memorable trip
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that you guys have gone?
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So at least was the first
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you'll agree
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that this was your first trip together.
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Well,
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what was the one that's the
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most is our most memorable?
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Regardless
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if it was like
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Destination Wedding Somebody's Birthday.
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Yeah,
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I think we and we've
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had this discussion before
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and I think it changes.
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I, we so we got married so I would say to
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I would have to say pick two that
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so we went back to Freetown
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for Christmas, Sierra Leone
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and that's where he proposed.
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And then we got
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I had my traditional wedding
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that like an hour
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after I propose and got married,
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the same thing in Sierra Leone,
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like the whole thing,
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like the national wedding, whatever
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my mom knew my sister knew my brother.
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No, I didn't know.
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And he was traveling at that point
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that we had been dating
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for like six years or so, something long
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and he always used to be like,
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don't worry
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when it happens all the time, it's
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only going on like whatever you get.
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Like,
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you know, I was like,
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anyways, taking forever.
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So he was like,
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it doesn't matter
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because once I put the ring
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on, we're just going to get
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married, like, whatever.
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And I told her,
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I said, we're going to get married.
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I said, You got to propose and
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I'm going to propose you and
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marry the same date, right?
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So I can't do that.
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I was like,
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I so like before this happened,
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we there was like a flight deal
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to Italy, to Milan.
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So we had already booked our trip.
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We're going to Italy the march
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following that.
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So I didn't realize that
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that like Italy trip
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was essentially our honeymoon
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because we got married that December.
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So we got the traditional wedding.
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We came home
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and then literally just got married.
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And my mother in law's
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living room with my pastor,
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just our siblings,
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our parents and like two friends.
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So, like, the whole thing's
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like a two weeks,
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like the engagement and wedding.
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Two weeks.
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So I would say
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that was obviously a memorable trip.
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And then Italy was because
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it was like our honeymoon without us
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knowing that we were both the only one.
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And it was so it was just
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an amazing trip.
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Like some architecture, the food we went,
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we hiked to
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whatever I thought I was going to die.
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There was just
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crazy.
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Like it was so much fun, so beautiful.
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We bought
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leather jackets, like in Florence,
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like it was a really nice, nice trip.
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We I was born out of control in Italy.
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Yeah, no, I didn't even know, though, is
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everything was cheaper, like.
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Yeah, we literally was eating,
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like, sandwiches
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and wine on the corner,
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you know, like $5 is like,
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I I just ate pizza and drank
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Chasin Espresso.
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I was amazing.
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Yeah, that's it.
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It was like, you.
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Yeah, whatever. And we made it work.
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But I think my most memorable trip was,
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you know, so
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it wasn't all the glamor and go,
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but I think it was just
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kind of meaningful.
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It was
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it was gonna,
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I like gonna let me see what
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we were planning to get married
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and got it right.
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We're having the wedding
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to have it wedding. Excuse me.
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We have the wedding in Ghana.
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So we already knew that was the plan.
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We
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I was serious about.
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I even got, like, my wedding band rings
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before I can think
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Ressemble one of the symbols
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that I wanted to put on it.
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And it was just like a series of steps.
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So we were like,
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I was going out there
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with a plan
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to call, see venues and talk to people
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and kind of connect the that
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and put it all together.
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And it was like a short trip
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and but it was so dope
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because we made it work.
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He was out there hustling,
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trying to figure out what we want to,
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you know,
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we have the wedding,
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and then we would just like to make
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something like vaccines.
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I had been Savanah
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before by myself and Artem,
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and he hadn't been there, so I was like,
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Oh, we got to go to this.
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This is like
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we went to do there for a week
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and while we were looking at Vinnie's,
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I was trying to like show him
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the places that I had gone
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before that I loved.
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So it was like a
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really quick and dirty trip,
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but like, really it was nice
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and I think it was cool for me
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because I was just like
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everything for me.
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My trips,
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I like to have like some type
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educational experience,
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you know, something I'm learning,
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you know,
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some insight
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to where
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I'm going,
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you know, with the common
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folks, not like, you know,
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just some random.
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But I think that was kind of a trip
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for me as well.
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He looked awesome.
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So now how did you guys have little ones?
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How do you guys travel
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with the little ones?
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Like that
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takes a little more planning than just
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your credit.
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So how was this trip? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, um,
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I mean, I was like, I'll say this.
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I always said
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the kids are not going
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to, like,
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slow us back
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because I think a lot of
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young couples or couples
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that don't have children and like,
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always afraid like,
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oh my God, I love to travel.
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I'm like, so we can still travel.
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Like,
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this is going to be a different trip
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to bring your baby with you.
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And that was our whole thing.
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We're like,
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well, we're, we're, we're going to go
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and choose is going to come with us.
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So now
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we have two daughters,
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but when we had our first daughter
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and Sandy,
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you know, they travel for free
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and so they're two.
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So we were like,
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she's definitely coming everywhere
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because once they're over to you,
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that's a full seat, like a full adult
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priced seat for a little.
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But so right now
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we're going to make use of this
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so I think the
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main thing is like realizing that.
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So before,
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like when I want to believe
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we like to stay off the beaten
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path and, you know,
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we stayed in like a village that was like
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closer to my African ancestors
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and it was like,
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you know, not as accessible,
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but it was with just us.
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But then when we had a sign,
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we were like,
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okay, well,
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we can't really say
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in some random place anymore.
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Like, it has to be,
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you know, either a smaller hotel
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that has amenities for children
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or, you know, some family
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friendly type place.
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Those, you know,
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where we stay became different.
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How we travel became different, like
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as far as, you know,
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okay,
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we have to bring the travel stroller.
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We have to bring,
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you know, when I was breastfeeding.
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So I have to bring a cooler
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happening my pump.
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I have to find out if the hotel has
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a kitchen's like a freeze.
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The breast milk, all these things
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that you don't really think about
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when it's just the two of you
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obviously packing
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a complete
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that's like another podcast
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like we can't do.
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So we had a couple earlier
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that mentioned the snack suitcase.
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You guys do a snacks
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in case we have like the snack bag
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that we were bringing
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is always a snack
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that and then we would put
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the other snacks in the suitcase
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because there are things that your kids
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a lot of there's a lot of steps
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just to say the least.
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Right? Is a lot of steps.
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But we are like travelers, right?
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So we're like, you know,
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we want to make sure that we have
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a thankful new life skip the line.
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Oh, yes,
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they appreciate being that pre-check.
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But what's the other one
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by lunch program three days ago. Yeah.
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So I'm like,
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you know, I'm
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just like signing up on the road.
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I'm signing up.
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I was like,
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I need to sign up for this,
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need to go to this and so global. And
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so we were doing
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like, I
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think we went somewhere with her
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and then we came back to global entry
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and then it was
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like she needs treatment as well.
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So we actually have passports,
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which is another joke to
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because like just giving the child
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a passport is like,
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no, like when they're baby ever.
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So it is like holding the baby up
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and just like trying
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the funniest thing ever.
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So we want to see
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we had a global entry and I remember this
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because when we got to Sinai,
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our oldest daughter
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Global actually because she was sleeping.
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So she has a globe and she did.
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But there's so many steps
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and there's so many things to consider
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and okay and so forth.
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And so I think
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in our experience, we just was like
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and we're just both way,
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I guess
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like hustlers, like we just be moving
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and like going.
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So I just I'm scared, just like kids.
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I'll just go in
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breaking it down to
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what is only this, that and third
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six science is always something.
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Then you're like fearful
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because you don't know
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what to expect from the challenge.
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First going to plane
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and then you're like,
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you know, it was this.
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This is so many steps and
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it's an experience
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one thing that happens as I was
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hilarious is when we brought
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this idea to Saint Lucia,
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I think she was six months
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and it was Carnival
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and I love a good carnival, good fit,
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and I was like,
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We cannot bring her back
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the next time we come, you know,
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we have to be back.
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You know, they have bedtimes.
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So yeah,
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you know,
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usually you're out
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chillin at the hotel bar.
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We have to throw up in the room.
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So like now
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your chillin in your hotel room,
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like looking at all the people have fun.
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So we brought her in at 7:00
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but in the bed
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because you don't want to keep
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her guaranteed.
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So they're not too cranky.
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And, you know, we're just relaxing.
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You can sit on the balcony
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and look and I'm like, looking at people.
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We're like hearing the parties.
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And then the next morning
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we're having breakfast and everyone's
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coming in covered and we like being
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like, now we must
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be out over, bring
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a grandparent
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or like a family member, like as a,
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as a babysitter.
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Be like,
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Look,
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you got this free trip to your kids.
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So we did that.
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All the go to was the go to third adults.
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My mom my mom. Sure.
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You know, in kids, my mother
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actually taking care here,
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my grandmother.
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So it's like everybody,
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we come from these families.
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Everyone's taking care of each other
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and helping each other. With each other.
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But her mom is definitely the O.G.
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She yells at them
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and then we would go on trips
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with other young parents with
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like we have a bunch of friends
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who have kids at around the same age.
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And so if my mom can't come, then
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one of our friend's mothers would watch
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because they were all like babies
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and they're like, just put them to sleep.
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And then obviously we'll just sit here
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and make sure, like,
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everybody's okay really wakes up.
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So that's how to
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if you have friends
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that also have kids around the same age
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and we would all like we all took them.
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I'm glad you came on this trip with me.
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It was like
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the moms took the daughters to Miami
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and we
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stayed at the fountain
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blue with the kids.
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So, so so we were
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so the all you guys were
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all the fathers were at a
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at a conclave party.
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So we the the mothers were in Miami
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so we're going to go out to so then we go
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and we see the children
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in like cabanas or a VIP, right?
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Like infants like them. Yeah.
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They have the glass side glass.
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And, you know,
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we're roughing it, you know,
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Omega's style, just like just in it.
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So we was just
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it was good that was a good
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that was a good book, too.
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But we also went with both of our parents
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to Disney World, which is a whole
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nother podcast.
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But
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that is a whole nother trip.
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But we went with them, and that was cool
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as well
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to have all our grandparents
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and involvement.
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Okay, okay.
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What have you learned about each other
00:26:04:00 - 00:26:05:15
as a couple
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based on your travel experience
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or your travel
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personality, behavior, patterns, habits?
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I feel like we travel very well together,
00:26:15:09 - 00:26:16:07
very similar.
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Like we get up early like some people,
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I mean, I know vacations to relax,
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but we also it's to also explore.
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So we like to get up early, you know,
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to see things but then also not have it
00:26:30:00 - 00:26:30:24
like to pack.
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Like you don't want to plan everything
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for every single day.
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So we learned that about each other.
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I think also that we're pretty laid back
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like it doesn't take much like
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we don't need a lot.
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I'd like one or two educational things,
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some like
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and then something like fun
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and then we can
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just like lay on the beach and like sleep
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well.
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So we might try to
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I think there's a healthy balance
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between us too.
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And I think
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it's more
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because of our personality types,
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you know,
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I guess the things that keep you together
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kind of travel with that as well.
00:27:06:03 - 00:27:08:23
So you go to these places
00:27:08:23 - 00:27:09:14
and then you're like,
00:27:09:14 - 00:27:11:03
because I'm pretty much laid back,
00:27:11:03 - 00:27:12:09
you know, not trust them.
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So I'm like, All right,
00:27:13:02 - 00:27:14:09
so whatever you want to do,
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let's go with the flow.
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And then I'm not like,
00:27:17:13 - 00:27:19:18
you know, how go with some folks.
00:27:19:18 - 00:27:20:15
You travel together,
00:27:20:15 - 00:27:22:00
the crew and is always that one person
00:27:22:00 - 00:27:23:03
that's like,
00:27:23:11 - 00:27:25:13
yeah, I don't know where we go in.
00:27:25:13 - 00:27:26:14
I what's happening,
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you know,
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one of those folks, they're not my trips
00:27:31:10 - 00:27:34:01
to like I'm never home or yeah those hold
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so I'm not like that. Right.
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So I try to
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yeah she's not like that either.
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So we just go with the flow and
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was also good is
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that we kind of find things on the fly
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kind of we shift gears really easily and
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but we do know when we tap out,
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you know, it's like, I love, my gosh,
00:27:51:20 - 00:27:53:22
the beach is like, I'm not moving,
00:27:53:22 - 00:27:56:04
you know, it's me.
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So I switch gears a little bit, you know.
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What has your experiences
00:28:02:07 - 00:28:04:07
been driving while black
00:28:04:07 - 00:28:07:12
as individual travelers and as a couple
00:28:09:14 - 00:28:10:21
I think it depends on
00:28:10:21 - 00:28:15:02
like where we were and oh my God,
00:28:15:02 - 00:28:15:14
this happened.
00:28:15:14 - 00:28:17:05
So one of the things this is
00:28:17:05 - 00:28:19:01
this is like kind of embarrassing
00:28:19:01 - 00:28:20:14
but so so
00:28:20:14 - 00:28:22:01
I like to upgrade my tickets
00:28:22:01 - 00:28:22:22
because my knees hurt
00:28:22:22 - 00:28:26:03
and I can't deal with a lot right now
00:28:26:03 - 00:28:27:20
to sell any kind of way.
00:28:27:20 - 00:28:29:24
And I'll have my kids.
00:28:30:01 - 00:28:31:08
One time we were going,
00:28:31:08 - 00:28:32:19
where are we going with my mom?
00:28:32:19 - 00:28:34:06
To my dad.
00:28:34:06 - 00:28:34:20
We're going back to
00:28:34:20 - 00:28:36:05
we are going to Freetown
00:28:36:05 - 00:28:37:05
for my grandmother's funeral.
00:28:37:05 - 00:28:38:07
This is another trip
00:28:38:07 - 00:28:39:09
we were already married
00:28:39:09 - 00:28:41:00
and I was pregnant
00:28:41:00 - 00:28:42:10
and they were like,
00:28:42:10 - 00:28:43:23
okay, you know, all the business
00:28:43:23 - 00:28:45:23
class customers. So I'm coming.
00:28:45:23 - 00:28:47:11
And this guy is like trying
00:28:47:11 - 00:28:49:13
to push the show off the way I'm like,
00:28:49:13 - 00:28:50:12
What are you doing?
00:28:50:12 - 00:28:51:05
And they're like, Yeah,
00:28:51:05 - 00:28:52:02
this is the business class.
00:28:52:02 - 00:28:52:10
I was like,
00:28:52:10 - 00:28:53:14
I know that's the ticket
00:28:53:14 - 00:28:55:13
that we have to move out of the way.
00:28:55:13 - 00:28:57:11
And this has happened from people
00:28:57:11 - 00:28:58:15
that worked the airlines
00:28:58:15 - 00:29:00:09
to always, like, one, are walking up.
00:29:00:09 - 00:29:01:05
They're like, No, no, no,
00:29:01:05 - 00:29:02:23
this is not for you is I have a reason.
00:29:02:23 - 00:29:03:17
Yeah.
00:29:03:17 - 00:29:04:01
So like,
00:29:04:01 - 00:29:06:12
this line is for first class passengers.
00:29:06:12 - 00:29:08:18
I'm like, I know that reacts.
00:29:08:18 - 00:29:11:12
So that happens way more than
00:29:12:00 - 00:29:13:14
I can count before we go anywhere
00:29:13:14 - 00:29:14:13
like in the airport.
00:29:14:13 - 00:29:16:04
And I'm like, why is this keep happening?
00:29:16:04 - 00:29:17:09
Like, is it just because, like,
00:29:17:09 - 00:29:19:10
we don't we look like pretty normal.
00:29:19:10 - 00:29:20:20
We're not like high maintenance.
00:29:20:20 - 00:29:21:18
Like, we're just like
00:29:21:18 - 00:29:23:17
so that people always assume
00:29:23:17 - 00:29:25:12
and I'm like, I don't understand.
00:29:25:12 - 00:29:25:23
I was like, well,
00:29:25:23 - 00:29:27:04
if you had asked, you know,
00:29:27:04 - 00:29:28:01
what kind of ticket I had,
00:29:28:01 - 00:29:28:19
I would have told you.
00:29:28:19 - 00:29:30:10
And they were like, Oh, sorry.
00:29:30:10 - 00:29:32:13
So that traveling on Black,
00:29:32:13 - 00:29:33:20
that happens a lot,
00:29:33:20 - 00:29:35:09
like with people just assuming.
00:29:35:09 - 00:29:36:14
And it's very upsetting
00:29:36:14 - 00:29:39:00
because it's mostly for the plane
00:29:39:20 - 00:29:42:00
to come coming back.
00:29:42:00 - 00:29:43:11
So you get that same treatment.
00:29:43:11 - 00:29:45:14
No, no.
00:29:45:14 - 00:29:46:19
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:46:19 - 00:29:47:22
It's always
00:29:47:22 - 00:29:50:12
I noticed you were always stateside
00:29:51:10 - 00:29:54:05
and it'd be people who were black and or
00:29:54:08 - 00:29:55:15
you know, and that's the funny thing.
00:29:55:15 - 00:29:57:18
So frustrate and, and just be like,
00:29:58:11 - 00:30:00:20
no, the lines of like, no, answers.
00:30:00:22 - 00:30:02:16
I literally will go on like tracksuits.
00:30:02:16 - 00:30:04:11
Like, we're, like, chilling, like, yeah,
00:30:04:11 - 00:30:05:17
we just cool and not going.
00:30:05:17 - 00:30:06:17
A lot of they don't know.
00:30:06:17 - 00:30:08:15
They're like, oh, look at this guy.
00:30:08:15 - 00:30:10:13
He's so laid back and relaxed.
00:30:10:13 - 00:30:11:00
He can't be.
00:30:11:00 - 00:30:11:24
I'm like, I don't understand.
00:30:11:24 - 00:30:12:22
Like, what is it about it?
00:30:12:22 - 00:30:14:06
Why is this happening to us?
00:30:14:06 - 00:30:16:08
Actually, I and I guess
00:30:16:08 - 00:30:17:20
I'm like, otherwise
00:30:17:20 - 00:30:18:24
because I don't understand
00:30:18:24 - 00:30:21:01
why you would assume, like,
00:30:21:01 - 00:30:22:05
I can read, like,
00:30:22:05 - 00:30:24:02
I know what this line is for.
00:30:24:02 - 00:30:25:09
So that happens a lot.
00:30:26:08 - 00:30:28:13
And then I guess depending on like,
00:30:28:13 - 00:30:29:09
we remember
00:30:29:09 - 00:30:29:22
like when you went to
00:30:29:22 - 00:30:33:05
Kenya versus Turkey, like how black was.
00:30:33:05 - 00:30:35:20
So like like in Europe,
00:30:36:07 - 00:30:38:07
you don't even realize that you're black,
00:30:38:07 - 00:30:39:11
which is strange.
00:30:39:11 - 00:30:41:18
Like, there's no, like, you American.
00:30:41:18 - 00:30:42:07
Yeah.
00:30:42:07 - 00:30:43:05
Like it's more
00:30:43:05 - 00:30:44:06
because you're American,
00:30:44:06 - 00:30:46:05
not like because you're a black person.
00:30:46:05 - 00:30:48:14
And so I felt like I'm like,
00:30:48:14 - 00:30:49:18
wow, Europe is very different.
00:30:49:18 - 00:30:51:20
It's not like a race thing.
00:30:52:05 - 00:30:54:15
It's more of like, okay, we're European.
00:30:54:15 - 00:30:55:19
You guys are American.
00:30:55:19 - 00:30:57:05
So like, let's see.
00:30:57:05 - 00:30:58:22
I speak a little bit of French, Spanish,
00:30:58:22 - 00:31:01:02
so one time we were in Morocco,
00:31:01:02 - 00:31:03:11
and because I spoke
00:31:03:11 - 00:31:05:12
in French, they were way more receptive.
00:31:05:23 - 00:31:06:23
But then when I asked them
00:31:06:23 - 00:31:08:01
in English, they were like, Oh,
00:31:08:01 - 00:31:09:04
my excuse me.
00:31:09:04 - 00:31:11:17
I'm like, This is so interesting.
00:31:11:17 - 00:31:12:02
Yeah.
00:31:12:02 - 00:31:14:01
So I don't know if it's like American,
00:31:14:01 - 00:31:15:10
like they don't like Americans
00:31:15:10 - 00:31:16:05
or whatever it is,
00:31:16:05 - 00:31:18:03
but it's just very interesting
00:31:18:03 - 00:31:19:03
when you leave.
00:31:19:03 - 00:31:20:13
Yeah, because I think in Milan
00:31:20:13 - 00:31:22:17
it was accents, like, it was like French.
00:31:22:23 - 00:31:23:04
Yeah.
00:31:23:04 - 00:31:26:05
They were like, Do you speak French?
00:31:26:18 - 00:31:28:07
It's like this is something
00:31:28:07 - 00:31:28:22
I needed to say.
00:31:28:22 - 00:31:30:06
Like, they didn't say English. Yeah.
00:31:30:06 - 00:31:30:22
It was like,
00:31:30:22 - 00:31:32:06
it was like, Oh, what language?
00:31:32:06 - 00:31:32:15
You speak?
00:31:32:15 - 00:31:33:17
Like they didn't even think, oh, like,
00:31:33:17 - 00:31:35:04
where are you from? Right?
00:31:35:04 - 00:31:36:00
More so.
00:31:36:00 - 00:31:37:23
Not if you were black. Or etc..
00:31:37:23 - 00:31:39:04
Yeah, that's good.
00:31:39:04 - 00:31:41:10
How we thought you guys were African and
00:31:41:19 - 00:31:42:04
or where
00:31:43:16 - 00:31:44:09
there was some people
00:31:44:09 - 00:31:45:02
that were from there
00:31:45:02 - 00:31:46:11
that, you know, look like us.
00:31:46:11 - 00:31:48:04
So that was the thing, too.
00:31:48:04 - 00:31:51:06
It's very it is very, very interesting.
00:31:51:06 - 00:31:52:06
When I was in Turkey,
00:31:52:06 - 00:31:54:02
I was kind of interesting too.
00:31:54:02 - 00:31:54:05
Know,
00:31:54:08 - 00:31:54:17
they thought
00:31:54:17 - 00:31:57:20
I was a rapper or something like that.
00:31:57:20 - 00:31:58:14
Maybe I was like, Yo,
00:31:58:14 - 00:31:59:14
take a picture then, right?
00:31:59:14 - 00:32:01:21
Yeah, right, right.
00:32:01:21 - 00:32:03:04
Wow, this is real.
00:32:03:04 - 00:32:06:23
So, so I had
00:32:07:07 - 00:32:08:19
some, you know, mixed emotions
00:32:08:19 - 00:32:10:13
and feelings and experiences, right?
00:32:10:13 - 00:32:11:15
Because
00:32:11:19 - 00:32:13:02
I'm always like
00:32:13:02 - 00:32:14:12
thinking about my identity
00:32:14:12 - 00:32:16:00
and how I show up in some places.
00:32:16:00 - 00:32:17:09
Just because of who I am,
00:32:17:09 - 00:32:18:14
no matter where I am.
00:32:18:14 - 00:32:20:07
So it's just always super
00:32:20:07 - 00:32:21:16
conscious about that.
00:32:21:16 - 00:32:23:03
So some things I might miss or something
00:32:23:03 - 00:32:24:12
I might be super hypersensitive
00:32:24:12 - 00:32:26:06
to, some might see things
00:32:26:06 - 00:32:27:17
before they even have.
00:32:27:17 - 00:32:28:13
Right.
00:32:29:00 - 00:32:31:16
And then you have the folks who are like,
00:32:31:22 - 00:32:33:07
and I'm always feeling
00:32:33:07 - 00:32:34:13
weird about people,
00:32:34:13 - 00:32:34:20
you know,
00:32:34:20 - 00:32:36:03
even when they're super nice, I'm like,
00:32:37:11 - 00:32:39:05
I don't know, race
00:32:39:05 - 00:32:40:16
is doing that because I'm black, right?
00:32:40:16 - 00:32:41:08
So, you know,
00:32:41:08 - 00:32:43:01
and I think that that's a part of it,
00:32:43:01 - 00:32:44:03
too, right?
00:32:44:03 - 00:32:46:00
They see some black holes where,
00:32:46:00 - 00:32:46:23
you know,
00:32:46:23 - 00:32:48:24
who would travel in business class or,
00:32:48:24 - 00:32:50:01
you know, etc.
00:32:50:01 - 00:32:52:06
Because I think the last year we so
00:32:52:22 - 00:32:54:09
we had the children in business
00:32:54:09 - 00:32:56:17
class suit to check this one out.
00:32:57:11 - 00:32:59:01
We have two babies.
00:32:59:01 - 00:33:01:02
Yeah. We're big overseas, right?
00:33:01:02 - 00:33:01:10
They got
00:33:01:10 - 00:33:01:19
they little
00:33:01:19 - 00:33:03:17
headphones on tablets
00:33:03:17 - 00:33:06:14
and they just chilling I don't know.
00:33:06:14 - 00:33:07:13
And then I know that everybody
00:33:07:13 - 00:33:10:14
was just like walking by like damn right.
00:33:11:09 - 00:33:12:00
They were like
00:33:12:00 - 00:33:12:19
like them
00:33:12:19 - 00:33:14:22
little babies doing their thing.
00:33:15:08 - 00:33:16:06
But I love it.
00:33:16:06 - 00:33:19:14
But, but, you know, it's
00:33:19:14 - 00:33:21:22
I think traveling while black is, is
00:33:21:22 - 00:33:23:01
there's a lot of mixed emotions
00:33:23:01 - 00:33:23:20
that come with it.
00:33:23:20 - 00:33:25:08
Planning on where you are
00:33:25:08 - 00:33:27:13
and what you're doing now.
00:33:27:15 - 00:33:28:23
You guys find it that
00:33:31:04 - 00:33:32:15
think you alluded to it.
00:33:32:15 - 00:33:34:10
I don't want to like kind of press
00:33:34:10 - 00:33:36:17
the issue but like is it
00:33:36:17 - 00:33:38:15
you're seeing as true
00:33:38:15 - 00:33:40:11
different here than we are
00:33:40:11 - 00:33:42:15
when they're wherever else you go
00:33:42:15 - 00:33:43:09
and then
00:33:43:09 - 00:33:45:12
not even just on top of that like
00:33:45:12 - 00:33:48:23
African country sometimes genius
00:33:48:23 - 00:33:49:13
for sure.
00:33:49:13 - 00:33:50:09
Yeah
00:33:51:22 - 00:33:54:02
know Kenya I know we talked about our
00:33:54:06 - 00:33:55:17
but what happened in Kenya.
00:33:55:17 - 00:33:56:12
Yeah,
00:33:57:18 - 00:33:58:07
Kenya.
00:33:58:07 - 00:34:00:22
See, Kenya is like is over.
00:34:00:22 - 00:34:02:18
I think there's only like 44 different
00:34:02:18 - 00:34:04:17
tribes, right?
00:34:04:17 - 00:34:07:23
So you would see folks who look
00:34:08:12 - 00:34:10:21
very much so like you and I write,
00:34:11:05 - 00:34:11:15
you know,
00:34:11:15 - 00:34:12:10
like folks
00:34:12:10 - 00:34:14:06
that different complexions and,
00:34:14:06 - 00:34:16:02
and I think there's a cultural thing
00:34:16:02 - 00:34:17:13
that's there as well.
00:34:17:13 - 00:34:18:22
But then
00:34:20:16 - 00:34:22:08
you know, I think for me
00:34:22:08 - 00:34:23:06
I think it was more
00:34:23:06 - 00:34:25:02
so the American part of it,
00:34:25:02 - 00:34:25:12
you know,
00:34:25:12 - 00:34:26:21
because there's always the assumption
00:34:26:21 - 00:34:28:04
that comes with it.
00:34:28:04 - 00:34:30:08
But then it's also like black Americans.
00:34:30:08 - 00:34:32:03
So I think that there's another layer
00:34:32:03 - 00:34:33:15
to that, right?
00:34:33:15 - 00:34:35:15
Because it's like skin.
00:34:35:15 - 00:34:37:21
So we're not kinfolk, right?
00:34:38:03 - 00:34:40:13
So you, my brother,
00:34:40:17 - 00:34:42:05
but you are,
00:34:42:05 - 00:34:43:03
you know, rich
00:34:43:03 - 00:34:44:20
or you have something, right?
00:34:44:20 - 00:34:45:08
So then there's
00:34:45:08 - 00:34:47:03
a different type of treatment.
00:34:47:03 - 00:34:48:19
And then they always try to pull the wool
00:34:48:19 - 00:34:49:18
over your eyes, right?
00:34:49:18 - 00:34:51:06
Then you can get away with.
00:34:51:06 - 00:34:52:18
So that's another thing, too.
00:34:52:18 - 00:34:55:21
So there's this there's this like this,
00:34:56:05 - 00:34:57:03
the intersections
00:34:57:03 - 00:34:57:11
with you
00:34:57:11 - 00:35:00:24
being a black American in a continent,
00:35:01:12 - 00:35:01:22
you know,
00:35:01:22 - 00:35:02:20
where primarily
00:35:02:20 - 00:35:04:19
people have the same complexion issue.
00:35:04:19 - 00:35:07:06
But then after seeing cultural,
00:35:07:06 - 00:35:08:24
you know, background as you
00:35:08:24 - 00:35:09:18
then it gets a little
00:35:09:18 - 00:35:11:23
I think it's a little different.
00:35:11:23 - 00:35:13:01
I remember when you
00:35:13:01 - 00:35:14:07
when you came back from the trip
00:35:14:07 - 00:35:15:11
saying like that
00:35:15:11 - 00:35:17:21
he basically felt more comfortable
00:35:17:22 - 00:35:19:23
in Turkey than in Kenya.
00:35:20:03 - 00:35:21:01
And I was like, really?
00:35:22:01 - 00:35:22:19
Yeah.
00:35:22:19 - 00:35:24:17
And he's and it's like him and Brennan,
00:35:24:17 - 00:35:26:09
he was like, yeah, it was like,
00:35:26:09 - 00:35:26:17
you know,
00:35:26:17 - 00:35:27:21
nobody looked at them like
00:35:27:21 - 00:35:29:05
what are you doing here?
00:35:29:05 - 00:35:31:15
You know, this is an American thing.
00:35:31:15 - 00:35:32:10
Whereas in Kenya,
00:35:32:10 - 00:35:34:21
I think that kind of the being American
00:35:35:12 - 00:35:39:10
also is also was the the the parents.
00:35:39:15 - 00:35:41:20
So now I'm a heavier guy, right?
00:35:42:09 - 00:35:44:12
They do the most of the people in Kenya.
00:35:44:21 - 00:35:45:14
Right.
00:35:45:14 - 00:35:47:18
And you know, these guys statues
00:35:47:19 - 00:35:48:14
very different from that.
00:35:48:14 - 00:35:50:18
So I look like some anomaly.
00:35:50:18 - 00:35:52:14
I'm like way like, oh, who's this guy?
00:35:52:14 - 00:35:54:02
That's that's one thing.
00:35:54:02 - 00:35:56:06
Then I have tattoos, right?
00:35:56:08 - 00:35:57:10
That's another thing.
00:35:57:10 - 00:35:59:03
And then, you know, I'm also branded.
00:35:59:03 - 00:36:00:12
That's a whole nother thing.
00:36:00:12 - 00:36:02:21
And then and then I have hair on my head.
00:36:02:21 - 00:36:05:05
This is like my third set a lot.
00:36:05:05 - 00:36:07:01
So it's like every time I have locks
00:36:07:01 - 00:36:08:24
then they look at me like this
00:36:08:24 - 00:36:09:21
guy got hair.
00:36:09:21 - 00:36:11:13
And then there's also the depiction of
00:36:11:13 - 00:36:12:13
behind hair,
00:36:12:13 - 00:36:13:05
you know,
00:36:13:05 - 00:36:14:05
history in terms of
00:36:14:05 - 00:36:16:03
like some revolutionary canyons.
00:36:16:03 - 00:36:18:01
They look as Rastafarians,
00:36:18:01 - 00:36:20:03
you know, in terms of their background.
00:36:20:03 - 00:36:22:04
And they are looking at me
00:36:22:04 - 00:36:24:06
like those guys are Mad Men, right?
00:36:24:08 - 00:36:24:18
You know,
00:36:24:18 - 00:36:25:09
because you got to have
00:36:25:09 - 00:36:26:01
something wrong with you.
00:36:26:01 - 00:36:26:22
You have here. Yeah.
00:36:28:01 - 00:36:28:24
But I love
00:36:28:24 - 00:36:30:24
my has grown, so it's a little different.
00:36:30:24 - 00:36:33:02
So now it's like these mixed emotions.
00:36:33:02 - 00:36:35:15
So people do look at you
00:36:35:15 - 00:36:36:10
differently
00:36:36:10 - 00:36:38:09
you know, just from out of the gate,
00:36:38:09 - 00:36:40:10
like looking at you like, oh, guy,
00:36:40:10 - 00:36:41:07
who's this?
00:36:42:03 - 00:36:43:05
Oh, wow.
00:36:43:05 - 00:36:44:07
Do you notice a difference
00:36:44:07 - 00:36:46:20
in how people respond to you
00:36:46:20 - 00:36:48:08
when you're by yourself
00:36:48:08 - 00:36:48:23
versus
00:36:48:23 - 00:36:50:24
when you're with your wife and kids?
00:36:53:02 - 00:36:55:09
Yeah, I think for us,
00:36:55:09 - 00:36:56:09
the people
00:36:56:09 - 00:36:58:18
everyone sees the children first
00:36:58:18 - 00:37:00:04
when we chat with children
00:37:00:04 - 00:37:01:19
because they look at the children
00:37:01:19 - 00:37:02:20
and they're like Oh,
00:37:02:20 - 00:37:03:08
you know, it's
00:37:03:08 - 00:37:05:06
like all the babies, right?
00:37:05:06 - 00:37:08:04
Um, I don't know if that is a benefit
00:37:08:04 - 00:37:09:06
for us or anything like that.
00:37:09:06 - 00:37:10:05
I don't think, you know,
00:37:10:05 - 00:37:10:11
I mean,
00:37:10:11 - 00:37:11:11
I think you particularly like
00:37:11:11 - 00:37:13:18
as a black man, versus as a black man.
00:37:13:18 - 00:37:14:02
Yeah,
00:37:14:02 - 00:37:15:20
I think, I think, I think it's different,
00:37:15:20 - 00:37:17:01
you know,
00:37:17:08 - 00:37:19:07
I think, I think it's not very much so
00:37:19:07 - 00:37:20:01
different because
00:37:22:10 - 00:37:23:18
I think there's a different dynamics.
00:37:23:18 - 00:37:24:13
I'm a father,
00:37:24:13 - 00:37:25:06
you know,
00:37:25:08 - 00:37:27:24
rather than just a black man, know.
00:37:27:24 - 00:37:28:18
So that's
00:37:28:18 - 00:37:30:05
that's a whole nother piece of it.
00:37:30:05 - 00:37:32:02
So people talk to me certain way.
00:37:32:02 - 00:37:33:07
They might look at me a certain way.
00:37:33:07 - 00:37:35:14
There might be some deference thing
00:37:35:14 - 00:37:36:16
that might happen there.
00:37:36:16 - 00:37:36:22
You know,
00:37:36:22 - 00:37:38:01
in terms of family dynamics,
00:37:38:01 - 00:37:41:00
I think it's a cultural thing as well.
00:37:41:00 - 00:37:42:15
So there's a little bit different,
00:37:42:15 - 00:37:43:09
I think, which,
00:37:43:09 - 00:37:43:13
you know,
00:37:43:13 - 00:37:46:11
I don't really see that as often,
00:37:47:06 - 00:37:49:07
but I think it's there
00:37:50:21 - 00:37:51:18
How about you?
00:37:51:20 - 00:37:53:01
Do you feel like
00:37:53:01 - 00:37:55:04
you take different precautions
00:37:55:05 - 00:37:58:02
or you are responded to differently
00:37:58:06 - 00:37:59:19
when you're with your husband?
00:37:59:19 - 00:38:02:17
Rather than when you travel alone?
00:38:02:17 - 00:38:03:12
I don't think so.
00:38:03:12 - 00:38:05:16
I think the world is very
00:38:06:11 - 00:38:08:12
they don't consider black women
00:38:09:02 - 00:38:10:21
like a threat as much.
00:38:10:21 - 00:38:11:15
I feel like they just
00:38:11:15 - 00:38:12:15
look at you like, oh, whatever.
00:38:12:15 - 00:38:14:09
Because I don't look I look young.
00:38:14:09 - 00:38:15:15
I'm like unassuming.
00:38:15:15 - 00:38:16:08
So I feel like people
00:38:16:08 - 00:38:17:21
don't really pay much attention to me
00:38:17:21 - 00:38:19:04
when I'm by myself.
00:38:19:04 - 00:38:20:14
But if I have my kids,
00:38:20:14 - 00:38:21:22
then they pay more attention.
00:38:21:22 - 00:38:22:12
Like you said,
00:38:22:12 - 00:38:23:03
they're like,
00:38:23:07 - 00:38:24:02
oh, yeah,
00:38:24:02 - 00:38:24:21
like when I'm by myself,
00:38:24:21 - 00:38:25:10
I feel like people
00:38:25:10 - 00:38:26:09
don't really
00:38:26:13 - 00:38:27:21
like notice anything
00:38:27:21 - 00:38:29:07
but what the kids are always like.
00:38:29:07 - 00:38:31:06
Oh, how old are they? Are they 20?
00:38:31:06 - 00:38:31:11
Yeah.
00:38:31:11 - 00:38:34:04
They all engage with her way more.
00:38:34:04 - 00:38:35:18
Yeah, with children
00:38:35:18 - 00:38:37:12
than they were with me.
00:38:37:12 - 00:38:38:15
But I'm not afraid.
00:38:38:15 - 00:38:42:09
I walk on person, you know, come to they.
00:38:42:21 - 00:38:46:11
Me or not, I might not come over here
00:38:48:14 - 00:38:49:04
yeah.
00:38:49:04 - 00:38:51:15
Wow. So thank you for sharing that.
00:38:51:15 - 00:38:52:11
And,
00:38:52:21 - 00:38:53:10
you know,
00:38:53:10 - 00:38:54:04
it's really important
00:38:54:04 - 00:38:55:22
that we understand that,
00:38:55:22 - 00:38:56:23
you know, travel
00:38:56:23 - 00:38:58:06
while black is a thing,
00:38:58:06 - 00:38:59:03
not just driving
00:38:59:03 - 00:39:00:20
while black in the States.
00:39:00:20 - 00:39:01:14
It's, it's
00:39:01:14 - 00:39:03:06
travel black because,
00:39:03:06 - 00:39:03:21
you know,
00:39:03:21 - 00:39:05:10
last season we had
00:39:05:10 - 00:39:07:10
I had guests, specific women
00:39:07:10 - 00:39:09:04
who in certain parts of the country
00:39:09:04 - 00:39:10:04
they would never go back
00:39:10:04 - 00:39:13:05
because how women were kind of like
00:39:13:06 - 00:39:15:10
objectified. Right.
00:39:15:10 - 00:39:17:14
And not just women, just black women.
00:39:17:14 - 00:39:18:10
Because
00:39:19:01 - 00:39:20:10
in certain parts of the country,
00:39:20:10 - 00:39:22:10
black women are seen as exotic.
00:39:22:10 - 00:39:22:17
Right.
00:39:22:17 - 00:39:23:19
So, you know,
00:39:23:19 - 00:39:25:02
some people feel like,
00:39:25:02 - 00:39:28:00
you know, I can holla and reaching right?
00:39:28:04 - 00:39:29:11
Oh, my goodness.
00:39:29:11 - 00:39:30:14
Listen. Yeah.
00:39:30:14 - 00:39:32:02
The catcalls, the
00:39:32:02 - 00:39:34:06
the unnecessary comments.
00:39:34:14 - 00:39:35:09
I feel like when I
00:39:35:09 - 00:39:37:10
when I'm by myself, there's so much
00:39:37:10 - 00:39:38:17
more I'm subjected to
00:39:39:17 - 00:39:40:12
together
00:39:40:12 - 00:39:41:06
and my
00:39:41:06 - 00:39:43:12
traveling or walking to the bodega.
00:39:43:12 - 00:39:45:06
Right, right, right.
00:39:45:06 - 00:39:47:06
Yeah, that's true.
00:39:47:06 - 00:39:48:17
That is true.
00:39:49:10 - 00:39:51:00
And so now we're going to
00:39:51:00 - 00:39:53:19
kind of switch gears again.
00:39:53:19 - 00:39:54:15
We've all
00:39:54:15 - 00:39:55:22
and you guys are still together.
00:39:55:22 - 00:39:59:05
So, you know, after the pandemic, the
00:40:00:20 - 00:40:03:07
graduation job, right?
00:40:03:21 - 00:40:07:13
After six years, our whole warranty
00:40:08:18 - 00:40:10:19
is right
00:40:10:19 - 00:40:13:14
now that now that all of that is
00:40:14:09 - 00:40:15:08
kind of
00:40:15:08 - 00:40:16:18
come to where we are today,
00:40:16:18 - 00:40:18:20
what is your new normal of life
00:40:18:20 - 00:40:21:04
as a family traveling mom
00:40:22:24 - 00:40:25:01
masks Walmart?
00:40:25:01 - 00:40:26:06
Same thing.
00:40:26:06 - 00:40:26:16
You know,
00:40:26:16 - 00:40:27:21
I had a different experience
00:40:27:21 - 00:40:28:17
during the pandemic.
00:40:28:17 - 00:40:30:07
She was really in the trenches of it
00:40:30:07 - 00:40:33:03
all, you know, really face for, you know,
00:40:33:09 - 00:40:34:02
facing it.
00:40:34:02 - 00:40:37:06
You know, in all of this iterations
00:40:37:23 - 00:40:38:24
me, I was more so
00:40:38:24 - 00:40:40:10
I was in the house right?
00:40:40:10 - 00:40:42:08
I was in the house teaching classes.
00:40:42:08 - 00:40:45:03
I was, you know, doing my arm and stuff.
00:40:45:03 - 00:40:45:19
And
00:40:47:05 - 00:40:49:23
I, I have way more anxiety
00:40:49:24 - 00:40:52:11
being around a bunch of people
00:40:53:10 - 00:40:54:17
than she does
00:40:54:17 - 00:40:56:08
because she was in the thick of it.
00:40:56:08 - 00:40:57:09
She was like unprotected.
00:40:57:09 - 00:40:59:09
I was I'm not used to wearing
00:40:59:09 - 00:41:01:19
a mask and stuff. I was in the house.
00:41:01:19 - 00:41:05:23
So that was a that is still something
00:41:05:23 - 00:41:07:22
I think that affects me,
00:41:07:22 - 00:41:10:07
whether I'm conscious of it or not
00:41:10:07 - 00:41:11:16
in some cases,
00:41:11:16 - 00:41:12:01
because it is
00:41:12:01 - 00:41:14:04
just like the anxiety around,
00:41:14:04 - 00:41:16:20
you know, feeling like lack then.
00:41:16:20 - 00:41:18:09
So that's one thing.
00:41:18:09 - 00:41:21:03
Then also just the children, you know,
00:41:21:10 - 00:41:22:16
we were already
00:41:22:16 - 00:41:23:19
hypersensitive about
00:41:23:19 - 00:41:26:14
just how dirty things are on your show,
00:41:26:14 - 00:41:28:01
which is cleaning everything
00:41:28:01 - 00:41:29:18
before they touch everything
00:41:29:18 - 00:41:31:07
and they touch everything.
00:41:31:07 - 00:41:33:24
So then that's another part is just like
00:41:34:14 - 00:41:36:24
making sure that we're protecting them
00:41:36:24 - 00:41:38:17
and keeping them, you know,
00:41:40:04 - 00:41:40:11
out of
00:41:40:11 - 00:41:41:15
harm's way, you know,
00:41:41:15 - 00:41:43:17
and that's just another layer, right?
00:41:43:17 - 00:41:46:07
Because it's because of the pandemic that
00:41:46:17 - 00:41:47:03
because you go
00:41:47:03 - 00:41:49:06
always want, you know, we will be in
00:41:50:12 - 00:41:51:02
Sierra Leone
00:41:51:02 - 00:41:52:11
and I have my daughter on my show
00:41:52:11 - 00:41:55:08
always trying to keep on my shoulder
00:41:55:08 - 00:41:56:15
and it's like, yo,
00:41:56:15 - 00:41:56:24
Chuck,
00:41:56:24 - 00:41:58:24
somebody will snatch your child right
00:41:58:24 - 00:42:01:01
so yeah, they were like, don't care.
00:42:01:01 - 00:42:01:10
Okay.
00:42:01:10 - 00:42:03:23
I'm like, I want to be gone.
00:42:04:07 - 00:42:05:12
So, you know,
00:42:05:12 - 00:42:07:03
these things are in the back of my head
00:42:07:03 - 00:42:09:11
as I travel with my children.
00:42:09:23 - 00:42:11:00
But then it's like now it's
00:42:11:00 - 00:42:13:06
that plus the pandemic right now
00:42:13:13 - 00:42:15:12
is the unseen, right?
00:42:15:12 - 00:42:18:17
So we're looking at people and records
00:42:18:17 - 00:42:20:24
they are right and trying to be
00:42:21:14 - 00:42:23:00
so that's so that's a
00:42:23:00 - 00:42:24:01
that's an adjustment
00:42:24:01 - 00:42:26:12
just being like super sensitive,
00:42:26:21 - 00:42:28:11
but not to the point where it's crippling
00:42:28:11 - 00:42:29:08
you, right?
00:42:29:08 - 00:42:30:16
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:30:16 - 00:42:31:02
Because that's where
00:42:31:02 - 00:42:33:11
I'm going to follow up with is like,
00:42:33:11 - 00:42:35:01
you know, you guys were good at
00:42:35:01 - 00:42:36:08
just kind of figuring out
00:42:36:08 - 00:42:38:18
places to go and going there
00:42:38:18 - 00:42:39:10
you know,
00:42:39:10 - 00:42:40:22
as your travel planning
00:42:40:22 - 00:42:42:14
since your trip planner. Right.
00:42:42:14 - 00:42:46:03
Has that just gone off the rails
00:42:46:03 - 00:42:48:20
now that you have to, like check for?
00:42:49:05 - 00:42:50:16
Do they need tests?
00:42:50:16 - 00:42:52:24
They need vaccination requirements.
00:42:53:09 - 00:42:54:02
You know,
00:42:54:02 - 00:42:55:02
like, for example, we
00:42:55:02 - 00:42:55:23
were supposed to go to
00:42:57:08 - 00:42:58:09
Saint Lucia
00:42:58:09 - 00:42:59:16
and in order to get Saint Lucia,
00:42:59:16 - 00:43:00:22
you got to go to
00:43:01:13 - 00:43:03:19
church in Tobago.
00:43:03:19 - 00:43:06:05
And you had so Sunday,
00:43:06:15 - 00:43:07:17
so down
00:43:07:17 - 00:43:09:06
we couldn't even go in our church.
00:43:09:06 - 00:43:10:10
And so like,
00:43:10:10 - 00:43:10:18
you know,
00:43:10:18 - 00:43:12:03
what's that planning a little bit
00:43:12:03 - 00:43:13:08
like since you're like
00:43:13:08 - 00:43:14:20
the A-type got to make sure.
00:43:14:20 - 00:43:15:23
Yeah,
00:43:15:23 - 00:43:17:07
well, you know, I'm Czech
00:43:17:07 - 00:43:19:17
so we we went to Saint Croix
00:43:19:17 - 00:43:23:01
and I read that site like 35 times.
00:43:23:01 - 00:43:23:21
So it's like
00:43:23:21 - 00:43:25:01
you have to submit the stuff
00:43:25:01 - 00:43:25:17
to the website.
00:43:25:17 - 00:43:27:08
Then the website it sends you an email
00:43:27:08 - 00:43:28:05
and then if you're clear,
00:43:28:05 - 00:43:29:00
then you can go.
00:43:29:00 - 00:43:29:13
But actually
00:43:29:13 - 00:43:31:12
within this amount of time and it's like,
00:43:31:12 - 00:43:33:00
so is this like a lot of reading
00:43:33:00 - 00:43:34:20
and rereading or do you need a test?
00:43:34:20 - 00:43:37:03
You need your vaccination
00:43:38:09 - 00:43:39:21
so it's honestly just like
00:43:39:21 - 00:43:40:22
figuring out, you know,
00:43:40:22 - 00:43:41:16
what do you need
00:43:41:16 - 00:43:42:24
and do you have to like some places
00:43:42:24 - 00:43:43:18
you can't even go
00:43:43:18 - 00:43:44:16
because you have to quarantine
00:43:44:16 - 00:43:45:03
for like
00:43:45:03 - 00:43:46:06
ten days
00:43:46:06 - 00:43:46:21
and like, well,
00:43:46:21 - 00:43:47:17
we're not even going to be there
00:43:47:17 - 00:43:48:19
that long.
00:43:48:23 - 00:43:50:06
So it narrows down
00:43:50:06 - 00:43:51:17
where you can actually go.
00:43:51:17 - 00:43:52:04
Yeah,
00:43:52:17 - 00:43:54:00
but there are so
00:43:54:00 - 00:43:56:02
and then that also kind of made me
00:43:56:02 - 00:43:58:17
think about like places in the US, like
00:43:58:17 - 00:44:00:13
exploring more of the United States
00:44:00:13 - 00:44:01:05
or the U.S.
00:44:01:05 - 00:44:01:24
Virgin Islands,
00:44:01:24 - 00:44:03:10
which is how we ended up at Saint
00:44:03:10 - 00:44:05:01
Laurent because, you know, nowhere else,
00:44:05:01 - 00:44:07:17
we couldn't really go anywhere
00:44:07:17 - 00:44:10:14
but luckily we have access to testing
00:44:10:14 - 00:44:14:03
is pretty easy and vaccinated.
00:44:14:03 - 00:44:16:03
So like those things that are helpful
00:44:16:03 - 00:44:17:17
and now a lot of places are letting
00:44:17:17 - 00:44:19:14
you kind of go.
00:44:21:02 - 00:44:22:12
But it's really just like
00:44:22:12 - 00:44:23:14
researching what you need
00:44:23:14 - 00:44:24:16
before you can go
00:44:24:16 - 00:44:26:16
before you buy your ticket.
00:44:26:17 - 00:44:27:18
And then being open
00:44:27:18 - 00:44:28:22
to getting there
00:44:28:22 - 00:44:30:22
and switch it out right now.
00:44:31:14 - 00:44:33:17
So I think we're really good at that
00:44:33:17 - 00:44:34:16
because I think what was a snake
00:44:34:16 - 00:44:36:08
oil was like
00:44:36:14 - 00:44:37:23
Oh, what's going on here?
00:44:37:23 - 00:44:38:05
You know,
00:44:38:05 - 00:44:39:13
because it's like you don't know,
00:44:39:13 - 00:44:40:10
you know, the process,
00:44:40:10 - 00:44:41:10
what they want to know,
00:44:41:10 - 00:44:43:05
how it's going to go down,
00:44:44:00 - 00:44:46:14
just because we went to Jamaica
00:44:46:18 - 00:44:49:01
and they literally change
00:44:49:01 - 00:44:50:15
the curfew on us while we were there.
00:44:50:15 - 00:44:53:01
The other like a resort.
00:44:53:10 - 00:44:54:17
Luckily, we were at a resort
00:44:54:17 - 00:44:56:05
so everything we needed was there.
00:44:56:05 - 00:44:57:05
But like,
00:44:57:05 - 00:44:58:22
you know, Jamaica, like you go
00:44:58:22 - 00:45:00:12
you want to go to Down
00:45:00:12 - 00:45:01:11
River Falls,
00:45:01:11 - 00:45:01:24
you want to
00:45:02:00 - 00:45:03:09
also want to experience the nightlife
00:45:03:09 - 00:45:04:23
to an extent. Right.
00:45:04:23 - 00:45:07:08
And the pandemic, I think Sundays
00:45:07:20 - 00:45:09:20
you could be on the street at 3:00.
00:45:09:23 - 00:45:12:19
That's crazy. At 3:00.
00:45:12:19 - 00:45:14:12
So there's not a lot at the end
00:45:14:12 - 00:45:15:23
during the week.
00:45:15:23 - 00:45:17:02
And so,
00:45:17:02 - 00:45:17:15
you know,
00:45:17:15 - 00:45:17:24
I mean,
00:45:17:24 - 00:45:20:00
we went during their Independence Day.
00:45:20:10 - 00:45:20:21
All right.
00:45:20:21 - 00:45:21:08
Well,
00:45:21:18 - 00:45:24:00
not do anything for you there recently.
00:45:24:08 - 00:45:26:20
Yeah. Yeah, we couldn't do nothing.
00:45:26:20 - 00:45:29:00
And so it was just one of those where,
00:45:30:08 - 00:45:32:01
you know, like it's it's a it's
00:45:32:01 - 00:45:33:07
a it's a huge adjustment.
00:45:33:07 - 00:45:35:06
Like we went to Aruba
00:45:35:06 - 00:45:37:10
and it was a 10 p.m.
00:45:37:10 - 00:45:39:06
curfew. Yeah.
00:45:39:06 - 00:45:40:23
And we went for a year or a new year
00:45:40:23 - 00:45:41:12
New Year's.
00:45:41:12 - 00:45:44:01
So they had extended on New Year's Eve.
00:45:44:01 - 00:45:46:12
They extended it to 11 1 a.m..
00:45:46:12 - 00:45:47:09
Yeah. Okay.
00:45:47:09 - 00:45:48:21
But that only gave you enough time
00:45:48:21 - 00:45:49:10
to ball.
00:45:49:10 - 00:45:50:16
Drop all that and run
00:45:50:16 - 00:45:54:06
back to a cab to get back
00:45:54:12 - 00:45:54:23
in.
00:45:54:23 - 00:45:56:10
And the cab drivers were sure
00:45:56:10 - 00:45:59:18
they were like, we do not want their five
00:45:59:18 - 00:46:01:01
right. They have.
00:46:01:01 - 00:46:02:21
Yeah. Oh, my goodness.
00:46:02:21 - 00:46:04:15
You adjusted.
00:46:04:15 - 00:46:06:17
Wow. Yeah, yeah.
00:46:06:18 - 00:46:07:16
So, so,
00:46:07:16 - 00:46:10:04
so give us, leave us with some tips.
00:46:10:04 - 00:46:12:11
Tips us parents tips, travelers
00:46:12:20 - 00:46:14:00
tips of paths
00:46:14:00 - 00:46:15:14
that travel with their kids,
00:46:15:14 - 00:46:15:23
you know,
00:46:15:23 - 00:46:16:07
and I mean
00:46:16:07 - 00:46:17:15
tips as a couple,
00:46:17:15 - 00:46:18:15
we always forget that
00:46:18:15 - 00:46:20:14
this season is couples goals.
00:46:20:14 - 00:46:22:19
We go back live from them in
00:46:24:13 - 00:46:25:09
person
00:46:25:24 - 00:46:29:16
saying that they're like
00:46:29:16 - 00:46:30:02
me.
00:46:30:02 - 00:46:32:10
My mind is on travel by myself
00:46:32:11 - 00:46:34:18
a couple we back. Yeah. You going out?
00:46:35:05 - 00:46:35:15
Well that's
00:46:35:15 - 00:46:36:21
why you're both there together
00:46:36:21 - 00:46:38:19
and so you can like, you know
00:46:38:19 - 00:46:41:03
listen for the kids
00:46:41:03 - 00:46:44:06
the kids leave early leave early
00:46:44:06 - 00:46:46:03
because I am notorious
00:46:46:03 - 00:46:47:16
for trying to get places like right
00:46:47:16 - 00:46:49:19
before we have to be there.
00:46:49:20 - 00:46:52:02
I might look at lack of experience.
00:46:52:08 - 00:46:55:11
We live close to JFK or go easy
00:46:55:11 - 00:46:56:06
on my kids. Right?
00:46:56:06 - 00:46:58:03
There is like some minutes away.
00:46:58:03 - 00:46:59:07
We don't have the rest.
00:46:59:07 - 00:47:00:11
But when you have children,
00:47:00:11 - 00:47:01:19
you have to leave early.
00:47:01:19 - 00:47:03:18
You have to like hours.
00:47:03:18 - 00:47:06:04
I work and just sit in a lounge and wait.
00:47:06:11 - 00:47:07:20
As you know,
00:47:07:20 - 00:47:09:22
you have to like break down the stroller,
00:47:09:23 - 00:47:10:22
take all the stuff,
00:47:10:22 - 00:47:12:14
put it in security, and then, you know,
00:47:12:14 - 00:47:13:21
the kids are having meltdowns.
00:47:13:21 - 00:47:16:11
Yeah, it's early or is late or whatever.
00:47:16:11 - 00:47:18:11
If they just in a new space or place
00:47:18:11 - 00:47:19:04
and they have
00:47:19:04 - 00:47:19:17
so make sure
00:47:19:17 - 00:47:20:14
you give yourself
00:47:20:14 - 00:47:21:03
enough time
00:47:21:03 - 00:47:22:23
notice to lounge
00:47:22:23 - 00:47:26:00
if you are able to get lounge.
00:47:26:01 - 00:47:26:24
Yes.
00:47:27:02 - 00:47:29:21
Your person sitting in the waiting area,
00:47:30:16 - 00:47:34:08
you can bring a lounge like you have to,
00:47:34:09 - 00:47:35:21
you know, you know, it's funny.
00:47:35:21 - 00:47:37:15
I remember sidebar real quick.
00:47:37:15 - 00:47:39:21
When you taste a little bit
00:47:39:21 - 00:47:41:18
different life like, whoa,
00:47:41:18 - 00:47:43:06
these are different.
00:47:43:08 - 00:47:43:22
Yeah,
00:47:43:22 - 00:47:46:00
this is it's a different experience.
00:47:46:00 - 00:47:48:02
I like we can get to the airport
00:47:48:02 - 00:47:49:06
whatever everybody's
00:47:49:06 - 00:47:49:22
I'm drinking
00:47:49:22 - 00:47:51:18
even so we're looking for lounges
00:47:51:18 - 00:47:52:10
and all that stuff
00:47:52:10 - 00:47:53:19
just to make sure that we're straight
00:47:53:19 - 00:47:55:12
and the kids are comfortable. Yeah.
00:47:55:12 - 00:47:56:23
And they're going into everything
00:47:58:12 - 00:47:59:13
so anyway,
00:47:59:13 - 00:48:00:02
so that's
00:48:00:02 - 00:48:01:06
one thing
00:48:01:06 - 00:48:01:16
that I think
00:48:01:16 - 00:48:03:19
and leave early get lounge access
00:48:04:04 - 00:48:06:04
we make a list like, you know,
00:48:06:06 - 00:48:07:20
what do you what do your children need?
00:48:07:20 - 00:48:10:01
Their children's medications,
00:48:10:01 - 00:48:12:14
you know, and what can you buy there?
00:48:12:14 - 00:48:14:12
Why do you have to bring
00:48:14:12 - 00:48:16:14
three bags of diapers
00:48:16:14 - 00:48:17:16
or can you bring one
00:48:17:16 - 00:48:18:16
and then buy something?
00:48:18:16 - 00:48:21:05
You rent a stroller and a bag.
00:48:21:06 - 00:48:23:03
Can you do things like, you know,
00:48:23:03 - 00:48:24:08
do you need to bring sheets
00:48:24:08 - 00:48:25:15
or just a pillow?
00:48:25:15 - 00:48:26:09
And these things
00:48:26:09 - 00:48:28:03
are you believe it or not,
00:48:28:03 - 00:48:28:10
you know,
00:48:28:10 - 00:48:30:08
places are very
00:48:30:08 - 00:48:32:06
up to par in terms of supporting,
00:48:32:06 - 00:48:33:18
you know, people travel children.
00:48:33:18 - 00:48:35:14
So a lot of things
00:48:35:14 - 00:48:37:08
you can get in a lot of places
00:48:37:08 - 00:48:37:16
and places
00:48:37:16 - 00:48:39:12
where you just bring your own bedding,
00:48:39:12 - 00:48:40:23
bring a lot of Clorox
00:48:40:23 - 00:48:43:09
wipes, Lysol to wipe down the furniture.
00:48:44:09 - 00:48:47:13
If you're going to bring your own bedding
00:48:47:13 - 00:48:49:01
I mean, as as couples do,
00:48:49:01 - 00:48:50:12
I would say also planning to go in
00:48:50:12 - 00:48:51:23
knowing what your partner likes
00:48:51:23 - 00:48:53:03
and what they don't give you.
00:48:53:03 - 00:48:54:03
A partner is not like
00:48:54:03 - 00:48:55:04
that likes to wake up
00:48:55:04 - 00:48:57:01
early, don't plan a 7 a.m.
00:48:57:01 - 00:48:58:14
excursion like you know
00:48:58:14 - 00:48:59:14
give people grace,
00:48:59:14 - 00:49:00:04
let them do
00:49:00:04 - 00:49:02:13
what makes you feel as their customers
00:49:02:13 - 00:49:04:02
and be patient as well.
00:49:04:02 - 00:49:04:17
Yeah,
00:49:04:17 - 00:49:05:23
because there's there's
00:49:05:23 - 00:49:07:05
always a part of the trip
00:49:07:05 - 00:49:08:16
where there's like a question mark
00:49:08:16 - 00:49:09:14
when this will come.
00:49:09:14 - 00:49:10:10
It's like there's always
00:49:10:10 - 00:49:13:17
that one moment, like, what do we do?
00:49:14:07 - 00:49:16:15
How when what am I wearing?
00:49:16:15 - 00:49:19:00
The right is always one of those moments.
00:49:19:11 - 00:49:23:09
So try to, I guess, be very clear
00:49:23:09 - 00:49:24:18
because like things happening
00:49:24:18 - 00:49:25:12
like myself
00:49:25:12 - 00:49:26:23
I'm just kind of checked out
00:49:26:23 - 00:49:27:24
most of the time.
00:49:27:24 - 00:49:30:04
So I'm just like where we go.
00:49:30:04 - 00:49:30:14
I mean, like,
00:49:30:14 - 00:49:32:13
I remember Emily, I told them
00:49:32:13 - 00:49:33:15
they're going hiking.
00:49:33:15 - 00:49:35:18
Yeah, I was know I didn't hear me
00:49:35:18 - 00:49:36:06
where she's
00:49:36:06 - 00:49:37:02
probably mentioned it
00:49:37:02 - 00:49:37:14
as like
00:49:37:14 - 00:49:39:15
when I tell me like we're going hiking,
00:49:40:08 - 00:49:40:16
you know,
00:49:41:19 - 00:49:42:11
it's like
00:49:42:11 - 00:49:44:01
a legit like
00:49:44:01 - 00:49:45:16
I got some nice cakes on you know,
00:49:45:16 - 00:49:47:02
I can't wear this.
00:49:47:02 - 00:49:49:03
I was like, yo, I was.
00:49:49:03 - 00:49:51:03
So we had to buy hiking shoes
00:49:51:03 - 00:49:51:23
on the road.
00:49:51:23 - 00:49:52:22
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:52:22 - 00:49:53:19
And then I was like,
00:49:53:19 - 00:49:54:19
I was like,
00:49:54:19 - 00:49:57:02
I told you you're going outside, right?
00:49:57:11 - 00:49:59:18
And she got the whole book bag.
00:49:59:18 - 00:50:01:18
She's, you know, drive fit on.
00:50:01:18 - 00:50:04:01
I got jeans and sneakers.
00:50:04:01 - 00:50:06:10
I really was to use Gigi.
00:50:06:20 - 00:50:08:11
I'm like, What the fuck?
00:50:08:11 - 00:50:10:07
And we were like, hiking hike.
00:50:10:07 - 00:50:13:00
Like, we were like, six
00:50:13:00 - 00:50:14:09
and go to affability.
00:50:14:09 - 00:50:15:11
Oh, my God.
00:50:15:11 - 00:50:17:21
It was it was very high to five towns.
00:50:18:01 - 00:50:20:03
So, yeah.
00:50:20:05 - 00:50:21:23
Anyway, so that's a thing.
00:50:21:23 - 00:50:23:15
So there's always those moments
00:50:23:15 - 00:50:26:18
and try to think about why
00:50:26:18 - 00:50:28:01
those moments happen,
00:50:28:01 - 00:50:28:24
because someone like me
00:50:28:24 - 00:50:30:07
might not be listening, right?
00:50:30:07 - 00:50:32:13
And I'll just take that out right now
00:50:32:13 - 00:50:33:19
because we're on camera.
00:50:33:19 - 00:50:38:06
So it's not because it's real, but yeah.
00:50:38:06 - 00:50:39:17
So, so, you know,
00:50:39:17 - 00:50:41:19
just try to be like, hey,
00:50:41:19 - 00:50:43:09
you know, we're going hiking, right?
00:50:44:18 - 00:50:46:18
Yeah, we're hiking shoes site.
00:50:46:18 - 00:50:47:21
So I think those are
00:50:47:21 - 00:50:49:10
the things that are very helpful,
00:50:49:10 - 00:50:50:20
just kind of
00:50:51:05 - 00:50:53:19
being over informative to a partner
00:50:53:19 - 00:50:55:16
who might not necessarily be receptive
00:50:55:16 - 00:50:57:05
to all things.
00:50:57:05 - 00:50:59:13
So I'll say that as well.
00:51:00:03 - 00:51:01:13
Okay. Awesome, awesome.
00:51:01:13 - 00:51:04:09
And where are you guys going to next?
00:51:04:09 - 00:51:05:10
We're just talking about this.
00:51:05:10 - 00:51:06:21
This was kind of talking about it
00:51:06:21 - 00:51:08:08
right before this started
00:51:08:08 - 00:51:10:02
is Jamaica right?
00:51:10:02 - 00:51:11:15
And
00:51:12:05 - 00:51:14:12
we're going for a friend's birthday.
00:51:14:12 - 00:51:16:13
Yeah, 40th birthday. Right.
00:51:17:03 - 00:51:19:20
And it's the same month as my birthday
00:51:20:05 - 00:51:21:23
and I'm just like.
00:51:21:23 - 00:51:24:07
Right, April seven.
00:51:24:10 - 00:51:25:24
08. So yeah.
00:51:25:24 - 00:51:28:17
So after every two pages and think
00:51:29:06 - 00:51:29:24
that's what I was.
00:51:29:24 - 00:51:32:06
And people got
00:51:32:22 - 00:51:35:10
my condolences
00:51:36:06 - 00:51:38:05
listen, we listen
00:51:38:05 - 00:51:41:01
my condolences and we go.
00:51:41:12 - 00:51:42:21
And I said to him, I'm like,
00:51:42:21 - 00:51:44:08
well, it's not the same weekend
00:51:44:08 - 00:51:44:24
as your birthday.
00:51:44:24 - 00:51:46:01
So we can go somewhere else.
00:51:46:01 - 00:51:47:09
But he is like, it's the same month.
00:51:47:09 - 00:51:49:19
I'm like, Okay, bye.
00:51:49:20 - 00:51:50:16
And then on top of it,
00:51:50:16 - 00:51:51:02
it's like,
00:51:51:02 - 00:51:54:05
we have two different types of traveling
00:51:54:20 - 00:51:55:15
this is like going.
00:51:55:15 - 00:51:56:20
So like, I know the rabbit hole.
00:51:56:20 - 00:51:57:14
So we
00:51:57:14 - 00:51:58:13
we have different
00:51:58:13 - 00:52:00:15
types of ways of travel, I should say.
00:52:03:00 - 00:52:03:17
She I think she's
00:52:03:17 - 00:52:05:01
more of the outgoing type
00:52:05:01 - 00:52:05:22
when it comes to like
00:52:05:22 - 00:52:07:16
just having the experience.
00:52:07:16 - 00:52:08:13
And I'm more like
00:52:08:13 - 00:52:10:05
meticulous in terms of like,
00:52:10:05 - 00:52:11:12
I don't really want to do that.
00:52:11:12 - 00:52:13:15
I would rather do this type.
00:52:13:15 - 00:52:14:17
She's like, Yeah, or whatever.
00:52:14:17 - 00:52:15:17
We are here.
00:52:15:17 - 00:52:18:07
And I'm thinking about the trip
00:52:18:07 - 00:52:19:10
in terms of like,
00:52:19:10 - 00:52:21:20
what am I going to be doing there versus
00:52:21:20 - 00:52:23:04
what I would like to be doing,
00:52:23:04 - 00:52:24:11
because it's like I'm going to celebrate
00:52:24:11 - 00:52:24:22
my birthday.
00:52:24:22 - 00:52:25:03
And like,
00:52:25:03 - 00:52:26:00
we're trying to figure out, like,
00:52:26:00 - 00:52:27:12
how is this going to happen?
00:52:27:12 - 00:52:29:20
The same model. She's like,
00:52:29:21 - 00:52:30:19
we're going to figure it out.
00:52:30:19 - 00:52:32:11
Like, you know, we're going to just go
00:52:32:11 - 00:52:34:04
this weekend or your birthday.
00:52:34:04 - 00:52:35:20
And then I'm like,
00:52:36:15 - 00:52:38:07
I don't see how this is happening.
00:52:38:07 - 00:52:40:23
So that's just like worrying about
00:52:40:23 - 00:52:41:20
I think I want to go
00:52:41:20 - 00:52:44:02
visit my friend in Arizona
00:52:44:02 - 00:52:44:23
the whole time.
00:52:44:23 - 00:52:46:14
Maybe you have some friends,
00:52:46:14 - 00:52:47:21
Arizona as well, too.
00:52:47:21 - 00:52:49:13
So yeah, we're big online.
00:52:49:13 - 00:52:51:18
I think the next trip
00:52:53:02 - 00:52:54:12
we're probably going to wait no time.
00:52:54:12 - 00:52:55:11
So. Right.
00:52:55:14 - 00:52:56:05
So
00:52:56:23 - 00:52:58:01
maybe I want to think
00:52:58:01 - 00:52:59:18
I'm I'm on Arizona or
00:52:59:18 - 00:53:01:07
you see, I, I'm saying hi, I'm fine.
00:53:01:07 - 00:53:03:03
This our own
00:53:04:04 - 00:53:04:22
Facebook.
00:53:04:22 - 00:53:07:05
Wow, this is our she's outgoing.
00:53:07:05 - 00:53:08:19
But it's good, though, because,
00:53:08:19 - 00:53:09:17
you know,
00:53:09:17 - 00:53:11:21
I'll go along for the ride or something.
00:53:12:04 - 00:53:16:12
But the we are traveling not far away,
00:53:16:12 - 00:53:17:04
just a couple hours
00:53:17:04 - 00:53:17:23
a week on travel
00:53:17:23 - 00:53:18:24
up north to Albany
00:53:18:24 - 00:53:20:24
for Thanksgiving with children.
00:53:20:24 - 00:53:21:23
And we already kind of
00:53:21:23 - 00:53:23:12
mapping that out in our head
00:53:23:12 - 00:53:25:06
and something as a small trip like that
00:53:25:06 - 00:53:26:15
we have to kind of like yeah
00:53:26:15 - 00:53:27:24
plan like is now
00:53:27:24 - 00:53:28:21
we have children
00:53:28:21 - 00:53:30:17
who went to Martha's Vineyard
00:53:30:17 - 00:53:32:19
and you know we was coming back
00:53:32:19 - 00:53:33:24
and one of our daughters
00:53:33:24 - 00:53:35:01
got car set
00:53:35:01 - 00:53:37:04
for a stopover and I was just like,
00:53:37:04 - 00:53:38:18
those are disaster.
00:53:38:18 - 00:53:39:21
So these things,
00:53:39:21 - 00:53:41:04
you know, hold your girls now
00:53:42:04 - 00:53:43:23
and all this will be for in January.
00:53:43:23 - 00:53:45:21
And then the youngest is two and a half.
00:53:45:21 - 00:53:46:09
Okay.
00:53:47:15 - 00:53:49:23
Yeah, we I want to
00:53:49:23 - 00:53:52:11
thank you both for jumping on.
00:53:52:11 - 00:53:54:14
This was definitely a great experience.
00:53:54:22 - 00:53:55:13
You know,
00:53:55:13 - 00:53:57:00
I have a best friend and Jackie
00:53:57:00 - 00:53:57:20
and Alade
00:53:57:20 - 00:54:00:06
I still see, you know,
00:54:00:06 - 00:54:02:19
the life and heritage as I do.
00:54:02:19 - 00:54:03:03
And
00:54:04:05 - 00:54:05:16
it's best
00:54:05:16 - 00:54:07:02
maybe we can plan that trip together.
00:54:07:02 - 00:54:08:07
Yeah.
00:54:08:07 - 00:54:09:07
Oh, we should do that.